I am shocked at the amount of "Mark Levinson" IS250s for sale
01-06-12, 08:31 PM
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Can you or anyone on here explain what packages you can get with one another? Since having all the packages is not possible.
01-06-12, 09:16 PM
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And here is a list of what options come with what package, scroll down to item #3:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...e-threads.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...e-threads.html
01-07-12, 10:49 AM
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Probably the rarest option is ML without Nav, as it only exists on special orders (and I think was dropped entirely a year or two ago)... in ~5 years on here I've only ever seen one other besides mine
PCS would be the next rarest option, and I've only seen a handful of those... (and it was dropped for the 2011 and up models)... this is the option most often missing on cars that claim to be "fully loaded"
Those are the only things I'd really consider SUPER rare... though ML (with nav) is certainly at least pretty uncommon, and the next most likely thing to be missing from supposed "loaded" cars after PCS
PCS would be the next rarest option, and I've only seen a handful of those... (and it was dropped for the 2011 and up models)... this is the option most often missing on cars that claim to be "fully loaded"
Those are the only things I'd really consider SUPER rare... though ML (with nav) is certainly at least pretty uncommon, and the next most likely thing to be missing from supposed "loaded" cars after PCS
01-07-12, 11:20 AM
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Probably the rarest option is ML without Nav, as it only exists on special orders (and I think was dropped entirely a year or two ago)... in ~5 years on here I've only ever seen one other besides mine
PCS would be the next rarest option, and I've only seen a handful of those... (and it was dropped for the 2011 and up models)... this is the option most often missing on cars that claim to be "fully loaded"
Those are the only things I'd really consider SUPER rare... though ML (with nav) is certainly at least pretty uncommon, and the next most likely thing to be missing from supposed "loaded" cars after PCS
PCS would be the next rarest option, and I've only seen a handful of those... (and it was dropped for the 2011 and up models)... this is the option most often missing on cars that claim to be "fully loaded"
Those are the only things I'd really consider SUPER rare... though ML (with nav) is certainly at least pretty uncommon, and the next most likely thing to be missing from supposed "loaded" cars after PCS
01-07-12, 12:08 PM
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I would say it's less of an age thing and more of a hobbies/interest thing. I know plenty of people over 30 who are "audiophiles" by many standards and would prefer the premium audio system in their car. Granted there are more in the younger generations interested in this, but I believe it's deeper rooted than just saying older generations don't care about premium audio.
What would the ML give most Drivers that would make a difference in the sale?
Honestly, I do not know what else I would want out of my 2011 ISC 250 sound system. It sounds great to me and the spouse. Jamming in Louisiana.
What is the cost of the ML add on?
01-07-12, 12:25 PM
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For comparison, it is essentially the same as someone who doesn't know why people like expensive $150 Kobe beef steaks because their $20 local butcher ribeye tastes just fine. That may be the case and they may be excellent, but if you haven't tasted one or then you just don't know. Likewise, perhaps you can't tell the difference between the two and then there is no benefit of the added cost.
01-07-12, 01:26 PM
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7.1 surround from 14 speakers (of higher quality and clarity) and when combined with the navigation, a 6-disc in dash DVD changer
Not sure about cost (when new at least), but essentially you have answered your own question. You don't know what else you could want from it because you haven't had the chance to listen to one yet. Perhaps you can't tell the differences between stock and ML stereos and for you there is no benefit (unless you want the DVD player).
For comparison, it is essentially the same as someone who doesn't know why people like expensive $150 Kobe beef steaks because their $20 local butcher ribeye tastes just fine. That may be the case and they may be excellent, but if you haven't tasted one or then you just don't know. Likewise, perhaps you can't tell the difference between the two and then there is no benefit of the added cost.
Not sure about cost (when new at least), but essentially you have answered your own question. You don't know what else you could want from it because you haven't had the chance to listen to one yet. Perhaps you can't tell the differences between stock and ML stereos and for you there is no benefit (unless you want the DVD player).
For comparison, it is essentially the same as someone who doesn't know why people like expensive $150 Kobe beef steaks because their $20 local butcher ribeye tastes just fine. That may be the case and they may be excellent, but if you haven't tasted one or then you just don't know. Likewise, perhaps you can't tell the difference between the two and then there is no benefit of the added cost.
NOW Kobe sashmi is excellent if you can find a Restaurant that knows what they are doing like David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago; I highly recommend this place but bring the bucks!
All I am saying is I believe to most consumers, the ML system is not a take it or leave it selling point. I have a 6 CD changer..... Just pickin chicken
Now, My surround sound system at my House, that is a different story. A Denon AVR-4810CI A/V Receiver with everything needed to compliment that Receiver. It compliments our Mitsubishi HC9000D 3D SXRD Projector. Like my 3D...
01-07-12, 01:40 PM
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Actually, I have had Wagyu Kobe Beef; I mean Hell I own a Lexus! LOL Honestly, I would rather have a good dry aged bone in ribeye; Kobe just to fatty for me.
NOW Kobe sashmi is excellent if you can find a Restaurant that knows what they are doing like David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago; I highly recommend this place but bring the bucks!
All I am saying is I believe to most consumers, the ML system is not a take it or leave it selling point. I have a 6 CD changer..... Just pickin chicken
Now, My surround sound system at my House, that is a different story. A Denon AVR-4810CI A/V Receiver with everything needed to compliment that Receiver. It compliments our Mitsubishi HC9000D 3D SXRD Projector. Like my 3D...
NOW Kobe sashmi is excellent if you can find a Restaurant that knows what they are doing like David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago; I highly recommend this place but bring the bucks!
All I am saying is I believe to most consumers, the ML system is not a take it or leave it selling point. I have a 6 CD changer..... Just pickin chicken
Now, My surround sound system at my House, that is a different story. A Denon AVR-4810CI A/V Receiver with everything needed to compliment that Receiver. It compliments our Mitsubishi HC9000D 3D SXRD Projector. Like my 3D...
Also, stock audio is 6 disc CD changer...ML systems are 6 disc DVD changer...you can watch movies in a ML car.