IS250 6 sp or IS350
03-06-11, 02:52 AM
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I love my 6 speed. Yeah its not fast but its not meant to be. Its fast enough and since its a luxury car you wouldnt be speeding anyways. Its also getting more rare. I can not ever drive an auto car ever again. Stick shift for life.
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03-06-11, 10:03 AM
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i want the power but also want the 6 speed..lol I think this calls for a Supra MKIV 
As for the speeding i like to go fast but cruising in a stick shift IS sounds to much fun but i do want alotta power to get up and go when there is a cocky mustang next to me
As for the speeding i like to go fast but cruising in a stick shift IS sounds to much fun but i do want alotta power to get up and go when there is a cocky mustang next to me
03-06-11, 11:32 AM
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I think what you are probably referring to, and what can cause some issues when you first drive it (stalling, etc.), is the extremely heavy duall-mass flywheel. It can really throw you off, because you pull the clutch out too quickly due to the low off-idle acceleration. More gas needs to be given than in many other cars to get smooth off-the-line.
After driving for a few days you get used to it, just like the irregularities in most clutch setups (every car is different).
The manual in the IS250 is far from perfect, but still a joy to drive. I would have preferred a conventional flywheel, but now that I'm used to it, I don't even notice it, unless I get into my AE86 or my old XRS, then I rev the crap out of it on the first launch without realizing it. Haha.
All that being said, if you want a fast car, get the IS350. The IS250 is no slouch compared to a lot of cars on the road (especially with the M/T, it feels a lot more responsive when you can immediately choose your desired gear), however it is in NO way a fast car. It's enough power for me though.
(PS: As for the MKIV Supra 6-speed, despite the V160/161 being capable of holding a lot of power -- the Getrag is very well designed, it still has a very clunky shifter, and the same dual-mass flywheel/pull-type clutch setup as the IS250 6MT. It quite similar in actual driving feel, despite the Getrag being a far superior transmission to the Aisin.)
Jeff
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03-06-11, 05:04 PM
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I disagree, the clutch pedal feels fantastic. It has a nice weight, and the friction point is always in the same spot. I've driven some auto-adjusting clutches before where the friction point moves and it is quite frustrating.
I think what you are probably referring to, and what can cause some issues when you first drive it (stalling, etc.), is the extremely heavy duall-mass flywheel. It can really throw you off, because you pull the clutch out too quickly due to the low off-idle acceleration. More gas needs to be given than in many other cars to get smooth off-the-line.
After driving for a few days you get used to it, just like the irregularities in most clutch setups (every car is different).
The manual in the IS250 is far from perfect, but still a joy to drive. I would have preferred a conventional flywheel, but now that I'm used to it, I don't even notice it, unless I get into my AE86 or my old XRS, then I rev the crap out of it on the first launch without realizing it. Haha.
All that being said, if you want a fast car, get the IS350. The IS250 is no slouch compared to a lot of cars on the road (especially with the M/T, it feels a lot more responsive when you can immediately choose your desired gear), however it is in NO way a fast car. It's enough power for me though.
(PS: As for the MKIV Supra 6-speed, despite the V160/161 being capable of holding a lot of power -- the Getrag is very well designed, it still has a very clunky shifter, and the same dual-mass flywheel/pull-type clutch setup as the IS250 6MT. It quite similar in actual driving feel, despite the Getrag being a far superior transmission to the Aisin.)
Jeff
I think what you are probably referring to, and what can cause some issues when you first drive it (stalling, etc.), is the extremely heavy duall-mass flywheel. It can really throw you off, because you pull the clutch out too quickly due to the low off-idle acceleration. More gas needs to be given than in many other cars to get smooth off-the-line.
After driving for a few days you get used to it, just like the irregularities in most clutch setups (every car is different).
The manual in the IS250 is far from perfect, but still a joy to drive. I would have preferred a conventional flywheel, but now that I'm used to it, I don't even notice it, unless I get into my AE86 or my old XRS, then I rev the crap out of it on the first launch without realizing it. Haha.
All that being said, if you want a fast car, get the IS350. The IS250 is no slouch compared to a lot of cars on the road (especially with the M/T, it feels a lot more responsive when you can immediately choose your desired gear), however it is in NO way a fast car. It's enough power for me though.
(PS: As for the MKIV Supra 6-speed, despite the V160/161 being capable of holding a lot of power -- the Getrag is very well designed, it still has a very clunky shifter, and the same dual-mass flywheel/pull-type clutch setup as the IS250 6MT. It quite similar in actual driving feel, despite the Getrag being a far superior transmission to the Aisin.)
Jeff
I'm also just use to the low pedal release and torque of my T/A WS/6.
03-06-11, 06:34 PM
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I considered a 2008 IS 250 with six speed. I drove it and had no complaints with the amount of or lack of power. Same with the six speed. After spending time on several of the Lexus forums, the consensus was get a IS 350 rather than a IS 250 for more power. Almost all the comments regarding the six speed were negative. I finally decided on a 2011 IS 350 F-Sport. I wasn't thrilled with a automatic, but I've adapted well. The IS 350 has plenty of power and I'm happy with my choice, automatic included.
03-06-11, 07:03 PM
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03-06-11, 08:23 PM
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this may sound weird but this is my midlife crisis car, all my life i've owned 2dr/standard/sport(y) cars... this is my FIRST 4dr automatic i've ever owned and i have NO REGRETS 