Manheim price on a IS
08-18-10, 05:22 AM
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I still call BS on the 15k, especially a year ago. Look at the pricing of what they're going for now. Manheim isn't some auction that you just get smoking deals on when it's raining or something. They also do simulcast auctions where you can bid on the cars over the net while watching them be pulled into the lanes live. Plus sellers dont HAVE to let the cars go. The car Manny bought would have fetched 21k-22k EASY last year.
ADDITIONALLY, I got my IS last november and I was watching the auctions from right around August on and I NEVER saw a 350 go for under 20k.
ADDITIONALLY, I got my IS last november and I was watching the auctions from right around August on and I NEVER saw a 350 go for under 20k.
08-19-10, 06:32 AM
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http://www.insideline.com/bmw/3-seri...ison-test.html
"base MSRP: $36,030"
that's base. without options. About 10k more than your claim.
08-19-10, 07:11 AM
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You can view history of sales in different regoin if you have Manheim account. NO WAY ON 15K especailly last yr. lol There may be 2 or 3 with high mileage is250's this yr but come on man....
even if you win the auction @ $15K dealer wouldn't let it go unless salvage or rebuit title. dealers are not stupid.
even if you win the auction @ $15K dealer wouldn't let it go unless salvage or rebuit title. dealers are not stupid.
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08-19-10, 03:07 PM
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Base model IS250 RWD in 2006 with NO options was 29,990. You claim to have an IS350. It's ok, you were trying to look cool.
Something is BS about your claim. Its one of the following:
Car is salvage
Car is hammered
You left off 10k
08-19-10, 11:45 PM
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It's quite possible that he MIGHT have purchased it at $15000 and have a clean title and a clean carfax. I don't know if it applies to the rest of the country but I've heard in Massachusetts, we're governed that within the first 3 years of car ownership on a new vehicle purchase, the insurance companies are required to repair or replace with authentic OEM parts for the entire repair. Because of this, it also doesn't require these accidents to go onto carfax.
I'm going to use my car as an example. It was purchased for $34,600 with navi (it was the Edmunds invoice number which was lower than KBB's). I've had car for 3 years and 2 months. If within the first 3 years of ownership I got into 3 separate accidents worth $8000 of damage all at different areas of the vehicle, chances are pretty much everything has been replaced or repaired. Heck nearly all the body panels would of been repaired or refinished, the frame probably would of been straightened, etc. Sadly with how the laws are here, the carfax would simply show up as if nothing happened. Just food for thought.
I'm going to use my car as an example. It was purchased for $34,600 with navi (it was the Edmunds invoice number which was lower than KBB's). I've had car for 3 years and 2 months. If within the first 3 years of ownership I got into 3 separate accidents worth $8000 of damage all at different areas of the vehicle, chances are pretty much everything has been replaced or repaired. Heck nearly all the body panels would of been repaired or refinished, the frame probably would of been straightened, etc. Sadly with how the laws are here, the carfax would simply show up as if nothing happened. Just food for thought.
08-20-10, 07:59 AM
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It's quite possible that he MIGHT have purchased it at $15000 and have a clean title and a clean carfax. I don't know if it applies to the rest of the country but I've heard in Massachusetts, we're governed that within the first 3 years of car ownership on a new vehicle purchase, the insurance companies are required to repair or replace with authentic OEM parts for the entire repair. Because of this, it also doesn't require these accidents to go onto carfax.
I'm going to use my car as an example. It was purchased for $34,600 with navi (it was the Edmunds invoice number which was lower than KBB's). I've had car for 3 years and 2 months. If within the first 3 years of ownership I got into 3 separate accidents worth $8000 of damage all at different areas of the vehicle, chances are pretty much everything has been replaced or repaired. Heck nearly all the body panels would of been repaired or refinished, the frame probably would of been straightened, etc. Sadly with how the laws are here, the carfax would simply show up as if nothing happened. Just food for thought.
I'm going to use my car as an example. It was purchased for $34,600 with navi (it was the Edmunds invoice number which was lower than KBB's). I've had car for 3 years and 2 months. If within the first 3 years of ownership I got into 3 separate accidents worth $8000 of damage all at different areas of the vehicle, chances are pretty much everything has been replaced or repaired. Heck nearly all the body panels would of been repaired or refinished, the frame probably would of been straightened, etc. Sadly with how the laws are here, the carfax would simply show up as if nothing happened. Just food for thought.
Lets go over a few things here:
First of all, carfax does not show every accident on tons of cars in lots of states. Not all insurance companies/body shops report things the same way, or right away. Some submit reports every 6 months, some right away, some once a year. So it's not so much an MA thing, but it's everywhere
Second of all, if the car WAS crashed and then properly repaired, AND had a clean carfax, then it would hold it's value as not being crashed. People care more about the carfax these days then if the car was actually in an accident. It's all about the resale. My gf had a TSX that was in an accident and the guy who came to look at it was so apprehensive before he saw it because it showed on the carfax. But when he saw it, he bought the car. It was fixed VERY well, to the point where you could not tell it was crashed without looking deep into the car. Additionally, if the car was fixed right and had a good carfax, then it wouldnt have went for 10k less then all the others because no one would have known it was crashed. If it was fixed like crap, (hammered as I earlier put it) then maybe you would get it for 15k.
basically like I said before, either the carfax is bad, the car looked like SHlT, or he's lying (which is prob the case). People like to play it off like they got a smoking deal when in fact they did'nt. I know lots of people like this and I call them out on the regular. It's just annoying when people spread misinformation like that because now there will be people out there thinking dealers are raping people more then already are and/or they can get an IS350 at manheim for 15k with 30k miles on it with a clean carfax and no issues.
08-20-10, 09:30 PM
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i actually work for manheim seattle, and if you get me the VIN i can look up pretty much any info on any car that has gone through any of our auctions across the country, actually even with out the VIN
i too am skeptical that you got a is350 for 15k, but prove us all wrong, and give me VIN number or day you bought it, and I will look it up !
i too am skeptical that you got a is350 for 15k, but prove us all wrong, and give me VIN number or day you bought it, and I will look it up !
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08-20-10, 09:36 PM
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you must be a dealer, have a dealer buy it for you, or come to one of the public auctions that are held sometimes, but the chances of finding what you want in a public auction (GSA sales) are slim, drug seizures, tax liens ect, all the other cars are wholesale only, you have to have auction access card, and a dealer lic. or work for a registered dealer.