so? (where "so" = oil change at 1k or no?????)
08-17-06, 06:28 AM
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It can't hurt, but I doubt that you'd ever notice a difference in engine longevity unless you decided to keep the car forever. And even then...
The more important question is whether to wait 5000 miles between changes. With dino oil, I think that's far too long. The change interval should be closer to 3000 miles. With synthetic (which I strongly recommend) I feel comfortable going 7500 miles between changes.
The more important question is whether to wait 5000 miles between changes. With dino oil, I think that's far too long. The change interval should be closer to 3000 miles. With synthetic (which I strongly recommend) I feel comfortable going 7500 miles between changes.
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08-17-06, 08:56 AM
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I did my first oil change at 1,800 miles, it wasn't because the the oil itself
breaks down. It was because of the small metal particals that are there
after the break in process.. From now on I will do them in about 3k to 4k intervals.
breaks down. It was because of the small metal particals that are there
after the break in process.. From now on I will do them in about 3k to 4k intervals.
08-17-06, 09:15 AM
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08-17-06, 09:34 AM
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Intervals will all depend on the driving habits and conditions. No one can make a blanket statement and be correct for everyone.
The best way to check is by spending $20 on a Blackstone analysis. Someone on this board has done this already and found that their oil was still good after 5K miles. That only applies to his car, his driving style, and the conditions he drives in. It does give the rest of us a reference point though.
If you're stop and go, city/rush hour traffic in a dusty area, you're safe interval will be shorter than someone who does a lot of highway cruising...
The best way to check is by spending $20 on a Blackstone analysis. Someone on this board has done this already and found that their oil was still good after 5K miles. That only applies to his car, his driving style, and the conditions he drives in. It does give the rest of us a reference point though.
If you're stop and go, city/rush hour traffic in a dusty area, you're safe interval will be shorter than someone who does a lot of highway cruising...
08-17-06, 12:36 PM
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You are allowed to disagree. But on what are you basing your disagreement? I remember reading a study that was done using a GM LS1 V-8 engine in a Camaro in which Oil analysis was performed regularly to chart the degradation of the oil. There were a couple of intersting things that came out of that study.
1. Motor Oil lasts for many miles longer than most people care to believe. This may be due to people being brainwashed into the 3,000 miles or 3 months from 10+ years ago. Tribology technology has advanced significantly since than and so have engine design and manufacturing. That having been said, I believe that there some conditions which may warrant an OCI of less than the recommended 5K/6 Month. These would include, exteremly dusty conditions, and perhaps extereme idling in extereme temperatures.
2. The more interesting find from that study was that wear metals actually increased after the oil was changed. This is interesting because it suggests that changing oil more frequently than required may actually have the opposite of the intended effect, it may increase wear on the engine.
So, I say do what you want, it is just good to know the facts before making the decision. I know that for myself, even knowing this, I have an incredibly strong desire to change my oil before 5K, but I am going to fight that urge and leave the break-in oil in the car.
Mike
1. Motor Oil lasts for many miles longer than most people care to believe. This may be due to people being brainwashed into the 3,000 miles or 3 months from 10+ years ago. Tribology technology has advanced significantly since than and so have engine design and manufacturing. That having been said, I believe that there some conditions which may warrant an OCI of less than the recommended 5K/6 Month. These would include, exteremly dusty conditions, and perhaps extereme idling in extereme temperatures.
2. The more interesting find from that study was that wear metals actually increased after the oil was changed. This is interesting because it suggests that changing oil more frequently than required may actually have the opposite of the intended effect, it may increase wear on the engine.
So, I say do what you want, it is just good to know the facts before making the decision. I know that for myself, even knowing this, I have an incredibly strong desire to change my oil before 5K, but I am going to fight that urge and leave the break-in oil in the car.
Mike
08-17-06, 02:27 PM
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listen to da man he knows what he's talking about
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2. The more interesting find from that study was that wear metals actually increased after the oil was changed. This is interesting because it suggests that changing oil more frequently than required may actually have the opposite of the intended effect, it may increase wear on the engine.
