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OFFICIAL Pricing
Manufacturers suggested retail price (MSRP) is $29,990 for the IS 250 rear-wheel drive with the six-speed manual transmission. The 2006 IS 250 includes $5,000 of additional standard equipment with only a $255 increase over the previous model. The IS 250 rear-wheel drive with six-speed sequential automatic transmission MSRP is $31,160 and includes Formula One- inspired steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters. The IS 250 all-wheel drive MSRP is $34,285 and, in addition to the above features, includes a perforated leather-trimmed interior upgrade with heated and ventilated front seats and wood trim.
The IS 350, the fastest sport sedan in the near luxury car segment, MSRP is $35,440. Its highly tuned 3.5-liter engine delivers a best-in-class 306 horsepower and 277 lb.-ft. of torque, resulting in the quickest zero-to-60 mph time of any competitor sport sedan.
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The IS 350, the fastest sport sedan in the near luxury car segment, MSRP is $35,440. Its highly tuned 3.5-liter engine delivers a best-in-class 306 horsepower and 277 lb.-ft. of torque, resulting in the quickest zero-to-60 mph time of any competitor sport sedan.
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Straight from the Lexus press release:
$29,990 - IS 250 RWD manual
$31,160 - IS 250 RWD auto
$34,285 - IS 250 AWD auto
$35,440 - IS 350 RWD auto
The release mentions no option prices. Also, the 0-60 time of the IS 350 has officially dropped from 5.6 seconds to 5.3 seconds.
$29,990 - IS 250 RWD manual
$31,160 - IS 250 RWD auto
$34,285 - IS 250 AWD auto
$35,440 - IS 350 RWD auto
The release mentions no option prices. Also, the 0-60 time of the IS 350 has officially dropped from 5.6 seconds to 5.3 seconds.
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Careful with that $35K number. Start adding options at $2K a pop and you have a much more expensive vehicle, most likely approaching $45K.
I will say I'm happy with the $35K starting point for the IS350 as $45K loaded is exactly what I was expecting. Now if I could just FIND a loaded IS350...
I will say I'm happy with the $35K starting point for the IS350 as $45K loaded is exactly what I was expecting. Now if I could just FIND a loaded IS350...
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Originally Posted by jrock65
Do those prices include the destination charge?
I think the 350 pricing is where most everyone thought it would be. Now add NAV, ML and the Performance Luxury Package and it sits well with the Volvo S60R and the BWW 330 at $45,000 give or take a few dollars. That is right where I was hoping it would be.
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Originally Posted by jrock65
Do those prices include the destination charge?
0-60 in 5.3. Wow!
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Careful with that $35K number. Start adding options at $2K a pop and you have a much more expensive vehicle, most likely approaching $45K.
I will say I'm happy with the $35K starting point for the IS350 as $45K loaded is exactly what I was expecting. Now if I could just FIND a loaded IS350...
I will say I'm happy with the $35K starting point for the IS350 as $45K loaded is exactly what I was expecting. Now if I could just FIND a loaded IS350...
LT?????? (This is the one I want to know)
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The IS sport sedans' exceptional performance characteristics begin with two new direct-injection V6 power plants with Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) and dual exhaust. Mated to either a manual or automatic six-speed transmission, the 2.5-liter V6 shows considerable improvement in fuel economy versus the last generation IS 300. The robust 3.5-liter V6, mated to the sequential six-speed paddle-shift automatic transmission, carves out class-leading performance with a zero-to-60 time of 5.3 seconds.(1)
(1) AMCI-Certified testing, six-cylinder automatic sedans, Ward's
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Option prices should be very close to the prices for the options on the GS. You can make a close extrapolation from the GS list. (Remember that unlike on the GS, sunroof on the IS is standard. OTOH, the GS has some stuff standard that are options on the IS.)
http://www.lexus.com/models/gs/price_options.html
http://www.lexus.com/models/gs/price_options.html
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The price on the IS250 AWD seems really high compared to the other 250's.
But I agree with everyone that it will be up to how much the option packages are.
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Originally Posted by VitB6
Exactly what I was thinking, but remember that wood trim and heated/ventilated seats are standard as well.
But I agree with everyone that it will be up to how much the option packages are.
But I agree with everyone that it will be up to how much the option packages are.
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So the IS250 AWD is $3000 higher than the IS250 RWD. Usually, the AWD premium for Lexus vehicles (RX and GS) is about $2000.
So, $1000 extra for heated/ventilated/perforated seats and wood?
So, $1000 extra for heated/ventilated/perforated seats and wood?
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That AWD price seems WAY out of line. Over $3000 for AWD?
I am hoping that the AWD comes with some sort of default luxury package other than just leather and heated/vented seats. With Nav and PLP Package a fully loaded IS250 AWD would come in at over $38,000. How is that a value in this segment Bob Carter?
I am hoping that the AWD comes with some sort of default luxury package other than just leather and heated/vented seats. With Nav and PLP Package a fully loaded IS250 AWD would come in at over $38,000. How is that a value in this segment Bob Carter?
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Originally Posted by tonyarous
The 2006 IS 250 includes $5,000 of additional standard equipment with only a $255 increase over the previous model. The IS 250 rear-wheel drive with six-speed sequential automatic transmission MSRP is $31,160.
The IS 250 all-wheel drive MSRP is $34,285 and, in addition to the above features, includes a perforated leather-trimmed interior upgrade with heated and ventilated front seats and wood trim.
The IS 350, the fastest sport sedan in the near luxury car segment, MSRP is $35,440. Its highly tuned 3.5-liter engine delivers a best-in-class 306 horsepower and 277 lb.-ft. of torque, resulting in the quickest zero-to-60 mph time of any competitor sport sedan.
In all, Lexus definately went straight for the jugular. These are very competitive prices that will draw a lot of people from BMW. Yes, BMW is a great performance car, but for people who will drive their car everyday, people will look for value and luxury and safety. The IS will attract a lot of people who really won't mind the loss of performance for the gain of value/luxury/comfort.
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Great price for the IS350 unless you consider competitors such as G35 (37k loaded) or TL (36k loaded). Of course, those two don't quite have the performance, luxury or refinement of the IS. For some, a $5k difference is a lot. Personally I would choose the Lexus--I loved my G35 coupe's styling and performance, but was sorely disappointed by the quality of its interior. If the IS's interior is as refined as my RX330, I will be thrilled.
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yep....to me the TL is still a damn good deal, but for a few extra grand you can have a slew of features that arent even available on the TL, plus the Lexus quality and increased power of the 350. I think if you just added Navi and a sunroof(wait isnt the sunroof standard on the IS350??), then I think you will end up with a price indentical to a TL with Navi. Just my speculation.
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Originally Posted by magneto112
yep....to me the TL is still a damn good deal, but for a few extra grand you can have a slew of features that arent even available on the TL, plus the Lexus quality and increased power of the 350. I think if you just added Navi and a sunroof(wait isnt the sunroof standard on the IS350??), then I think you will end up with a price indentical to a TL with Navi. Just my speculation.
This isn't even mentioning that the '06 TL can be bought for $33K fairly easily, and sometimes down to $32K.
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Originally Posted by VitB6
Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
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Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
i thought only BMW offered the free routine maintenance
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The TL including Nav is at just under $36K. There are no other options to add on to it. The IS350 will easily exceed that once you add Nav.
whoops your right....I just checked at all the prices again to correct myself. Good lookin out.
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Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
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Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
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Originally Posted by VitB6
Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
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Competitive pricing: BMW 325i starts at $30,900, but does not have the $5000 of additional standard equipment that the IS250 provides.
Competitive pricing: BMW 325xi starts at $32,800, and again does not have the $5000 of addtional standard equipment.
Competitive pricing: BMW 330i is more than a $1000 more, and does not have all the bells and whistles that an IS350 can provide.
In all, Lexus definately went straight for the jugular. These are very competitive prices that will draw a lot of people from BMW. Yes, BMW is a great performance car, but for people who will drive their car everyday, people will look for value and luxury and safety. The IS will attract a lot of people who really won't mind the loss of performance for the gain of value/luxury/comfort.
Competitive pricing: BMW 325xi starts at $32,800, and again does not have the $5000 of addtional standard equipment.
Competitive pricing: BMW 330i is more than a $1000 more, and does not have all the bells and whistles that an IS350 can provide.
In all, Lexus definately went straight for the jugular. These are very competitive prices that will draw a lot of people from BMW. Yes, BMW is a great performance car, but for people who will drive their car everyday, people will look for value and luxury and safety. The IS will attract a lot of people who really won't mind the loss of performance for the gain of value/luxury/comfort.
My wife has wanted me to delay the 330i ED to see the pricing on the IS350.
At $35440 for a base car. Adding all the bell and whistle, you are looking at $42k to $45k large.
While through ED, I can get a fully loaded 330i with all available options save the active steering and cold weather pkg $42,445 (including dealer profit of 1k). I will get additional 1k rebate from BMWCCA for being a member. My net cost on the 330i would actually be $1k to $4k lower than IS350. On top of lower price, I also will get 4 years maint. along with free brakes to go with 330i.
I guess me and my wife are going to munich for sure. Back in late 2000, my solar yellow IS300 was about $10k less than 330i, thus making it a great value and offered good performance as well. Is350 is a beast on the straight line, but at price that is higher than 330i and no free maint. I really don't see how Lexus can compete effectively.
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I guess the "value" is more in the IS250 vs. the 325i. Similarly equipped, the IS250 is probably about $3000 less.
The 325i is significantly faster though. Just got timed 6.1s 0-60. I'd be impressed if the IS250 can pull off a 7.1s 0-60.
The 325i is significantly faster though. Just got timed 6.1s 0-60. I'd be impressed if the IS250 can pull off a 7.1s 0-60.
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I agree - $35k base isn't a terrible price, but is too much considering their packages range from $2-$4k, along with a slew of other options. The configurations most folks on these boards have been playing with (sports + lux package, 18 inch wheels, NAV+ML+park assist) are going to be in the 43-45k range. If that's what you expected, rock on - it's too much, imo. That's acually over the available price of a 330i, and something like 6-8k more than an A4, CTS, G35. I've been flirting with the idea of trading in both my cars on an M3 or Cayman S, maybe I will just do that.
(edit to add I think the IS250 (non awd) looks like a good value)
(edit to add I think the IS250 (non awd) looks like a good value)
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I can get a fully loaded 330i with all available options save the active steering and cold weather pkg $42,445 (including dealer profit of 1k). I will get additional 1k rebate from BMWCCA for being a member. My net cost on the 330i would actually be $1k to $4k lower than IS350. On top of lower price, I also will get 4 years maint. along with free brakes to go with 330i.
2006 330i Sedan
$36,600
Premium Package
$2,200
Options
On-Board Navigation System w/iDrive
$2,000
Park Distance Control (rear)
$350
Active Cruise Control
$2,200
Power Rear Sunshade/Rear Manual Side Window Shades
$575
Heated Front Seats
$500
Comfort Access
$500
STEPTRONIC automatic transmission
$1,275
Active Steering
$1,250
Total: $48,620
Now, prices will be similar for a while, but the IS fully loaded should be around $42-44k, which is $4k less than a fully loaded 330i, as per BMW website.
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Originally Posted by chiawei
I fail to see where lexus has any value proposition.
My wife has wanted me to delay the 330i ED to see the pricing on the IS350.
At $35440 for a base car. Adding all the bell and whistle, you are looking at $42k to $45k large.
While through ED, I can get a fully loaded 330i with all available options save the active steering and cold weather pkg $42,445 (including dealer profit of 1k). I will get additional 1k rebate from BMWCCA for being a member. My net cost on the 330i would actually be $1k to $4k lower than IS350. On top of lower price, I also will get 4 years maint. along with free brakes to go with 330i...
My wife has wanted me to delay the 330i ED to see the pricing on the IS350.
At $35440 for a base car. Adding all the bell and whistle, you are looking at $42k to $45k large.
While through ED, I can get a fully loaded 330i with all available options save the active steering and cold weather pkg $42,445 (including dealer profit of 1k). I will get additional 1k rebate from BMWCCA for being a member. My net cost on the 330i would actually be $1k to $4k lower than IS350. On top of lower price, I also will get 4 years maint. along with free brakes to go with 330i...
when you say "42,445 (including dealer profit of 1k)", you're working up from invoice....but you're comparing that to the Lexus MSRP
now the real question is when/if Lexus will start selling below MSRP....i have no problem waiting a few months
main negative to not going the BMW/ED route, no driving of my brand new car in europe
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Great pricing overall except for the AWD which had better include more than just the perforated leather and wood trim.
Lexus only offers the 5000-mile service free of charge. If you want true free scheduled maintenance, pay another few grands and get a BMW.
Originally Posted by VitB6
Also keep in mind that both Infiniti and Acura don't have free schedule maintainence like Lexus does. Over 5 years that is easily worth another 2-3 grand.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
I have tried the "Build Your BMW" on the BMW website, and for complete factory installed options similar to that of a completely loaded IS350, the 330i totals more than $48k.
2006 330i Sedan
$36,600
Premium Package
$2,200
Options
On-Board Navigation System w/iDrive
$2,000
Park Distance Control (rear)
$350
Active Cruise Control
$2,200
Power Rear Sunshade/Rear Manual Side Window Shades
$575
Heated Front Seats
$500
Comfort Access
$500
STEPTRONIC automatic transmission
$1,275
Active Steering
$1,250
Total: $48,620
Now, prices will be similar for a while, but the IS fully loaded should be around $42-44k, which is $4k less than a fully loaded 330i, as per BMW website.
2006 330i Sedan
$36,600
Premium Package
$2,200
Options
On-Board Navigation System w/iDrive
$2,000
Park Distance Control (rear)
$350
Active Cruise Control
$2,200
Power Rear Sunshade/Rear Manual Side Window Shades
$575
Heated Front Seats
$500
Comfort Access
$500
STEPTRONIC automatic transmission
$1,275
Active Steering
$1,250
Total: $48,620
Now, prices will be similar for a while, but the IS fully loaded should be around $42-44k, which is $4k less than a fully loaded 330i, as per BMW website.
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To be fair, you shouldn't include Active Steering when pricing out a full-loaded 330 since that is not an option on the IS.
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I guess the "value" is more in the IS250 vs. the 325i. Similarly equipped, the IS250 is probably about $3000 less.
The 325i is significantly faster though. Just got timed 6.1s 0-60. I'd be impressed if the IS250 can pull off a 7.1s 0-60.
The 325i is significantly faster though. Just got timed 6.1s 0-60. I'd be impressed if the IS250 can pull off a 7.1s 0-60.
Also at $45k large for a loaded IS350. It is actually within 1k of a loaded 530i through ED as well.
A 530i with automatic, PDC (parking sensor), sport pkg, premium pkg, and navigation with voice control, and 1k dealer ED profit is only $46,745. Minus the 1k BMWCCA rebate. That would bring the 530i ED pricing down to $45,745. Depends on package price on the IS350, you are looking at a spread less than $4k.
Eventually, lexus will start and have to discount on the IS and the pricing gap will grow. But for earlier adapter to IS, the GAP is really too small.
No taking away anything from IS. But why would you buy an loaded IS if you can get a mid size BMW for about $1k to $4k more???
IMHO, lexus should have at least try to undercut true E90 pricing by $3k. May be lexus simply ignore the fact that BMW's great ED program discount and hope that general public would only compare stickers rather than true numbers. IMHO, this is dumb pricing structure. Anyone has any automobile buying skill would see through this.
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I apologize. My bad on the free maintainence. Thought Lexus did that as well.
But base pricing is worthless without options pricing as well. Where are the prices on the options?
But base pricing is worthless without options pricing as well. Where are the prices on the options?