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Old 04-16-15, 04:23 PM
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I have seen references here to the RX 450h's ability to adjust to your personal driving style, to help you maximize your MPG. Can anybody explain it that's true and, if so, how the car does it?
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IMHO, there is little official and detailed information on this beyond marketing references I've seen over the years to a particular vehicle "learning your driving style". There are lots of opinions from people however all over the place Since you have not yet received any reply to your post, I spent the last 45 minutes trying to find more definitive references to see if I could help.

I'm more of a driver than a gear-head type, so I will defer to anyone that has more specific info, OR I suggest next time you're at your Lexus Dealership, check with a Technology Specialist and ask if they can provide you more info. I'm sure everyone here would love to learn what you find out. In the meantime, here's a few tidbits:
- As to what "learning" is, my overly-simplistic explanation would be "your car watches how much and how hard you accelerate/de-accelerate during the learning period, and adapts the factory preset shifting patterns to hold certain gears a little bit longer or not -- sorta smoothing it out or perhaps improving a perceived lag, for how a more aggressive or passive driver actually uses the car". A more technical explanation of what is likely going on under the covers in the first couple paragraphs HERE may help those that want a mechanical answer.

- This is not something unique to the 3rd Gen RXh or RX, and references can be found in many other Lexus and some Toyota Models (as well as other mfgrs), back for many years

- It's only a discussion point as to how long a new Lexus transmission (or cleared ECM) learns -- be that 200, 1000, or more miles -- or even some other internal measurement. IMHO, perhaps the best, but still non-specific, reference of any official sort is from Lexus TSIB TC005-03 "The effect of the new calibration may become more apparent after several days of driving as the ECM 'learned values' are reestablished from the customer's driving."

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Old 04-17-15, 07:57 AM
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Bert,
Thanks for devoting so much time to replying to me. Coincidentally, I will be at the dealer this afternoon for a NAV update and I'll ask them about it then.
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How smart? Somewhere between a rock and bacteria. Changing shift patterns based on past experience is ok and all, but it's a bit like investing or gambling. Past experience does not guarantee future performance. These type of systems will only truly be smart when they can actually anticipate future actions. This level of anticipation requires knowledge of your destination, status and (observed / informed) intention of other vehicles sharing the road, and general traffic information. Navigation systems, proximity sensors, vision systems, vehicle to vehicle communications systems, self drive technology; all of these things integrated together would actually make something worthy of being called smart.

Instead of ECO and Performance buttons, cars with have "Smart" and "Idiot" buttons. I'll let you decide if the Idiot button will refer to the car's driving mode, or the driver's intention.
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Originally Posted by Droid13
How smart? Somewhere between a rock and bacteria.
In other words, intelligent design, such as it might be in cars, is no substitute for intelligent driving.
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