ggebhardt

I hear that Canada has them. Any rumors out there.

oohpapi44

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I wouldn't bet on it. The 450 price is hard to justify as it is in terms of value. Adding in a suspension that offers miniscule impovement to drive the price up even more would be a hard sell.

But who knows,

vlad_a

You shouldn't trust rumors. Got to verify your sources:
http://www.lexus.ca/lexus/en/configure-price/rx

kitlz

You have to wonder though given the success of the 350 F-Sport. Probably more so if it had additional interior color options. If Lexus brought the 450h F-Sport stateside, I'm sure it would sell. The suspension on my RXh with the sport package is comparable to the 350 F-Sport. I like it. Being hybrid is a nice bonus.

oohpapi44

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If there is very little reason economically to get the 450 over the 350 today, then what would be the selling point to get the 450 F-Sport (over the 350)? In order to have any 'fun i'm assuming' you'd have to (or want to) drive it a little harder and lose any benefit of it being a hybrid.

Isn't it already like 6 years now before you get any benefit back at the pump from the extra cost?

Don't know so just wondering.

vlad_a

Technically speaking, the H is the quickest RX. It's not a Prius either, so I, for one, don't drive it the same way. Mileage is still decent, though.

They have the F-Sport in Europe. With high gas prices, Lexus mostly sells hybrids there, while other manufacturers are heavy into diesel. So, it makes some sense for them to get the F-Sport, as 350 is not even available in some places.

kitlz

The extra HP, better mileage, more features and available options than the 350, less maintenance costs - just to name a few. And probably the two favorite things I like most about my (non-F) sport 450h, less body roll in turns and tighter steering. I haven't been into the mushy gushy ride for 10+ years. The 330 had the performance package with the sportier suspension. It also had air suspension, sequential shifting and AFS. It was expensive (about $5K) but worth it.

If by benefit you mean mileage, it has improved considerably since I switched to the 450h. Now I could fill up the tank maybe once a month versus once a week. And it's not to say I baby the RXh. My driving style hasn't changed all that much. I do like to have fun I could probably get more if MPG if I wanted. But we know that's not the only reason to go hybrid.

corradoMR2

To the OP no F-Sport 450h in Canada though if it were available, I'd have bought that without hesitation over my 350 F-Sport. In addition to the benefits kitlz listed, what I appreciate the most of the Lexus hybrid drive (which I've owned two) is the unparalleled NVH - smooth and quiet power delivery. For me this is worth the~15% premium alone as it completes the luxury experience and driving enjoyment.