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So my parents are shopping for a new RX. The dealer offered them an '07 RX350 for $39K, and an RX400h for $45K. So is it worth spending more. My dad is really leaning toward the hybrid. They do alot of highway travel from Pennsylvania to South Carolina. So anything is better than the 21 mpg they get currently in the 300. But, the question becomes is it worth spending extra money on goodies, such as navi, in order to get the hybrid version?
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I'd buy the hybrid (You're asking on the 400h forum after all) - whether or not the price difference makes sense only you can say. It's not a purely fiscal decision - the hybrid is faster and has better resale, too, in addition to the $1k tax credit.
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And the warranty is also very appealing.
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Just got a phone call from my dad, he's takin the 400h out for test now.
Also told me that apparently the Prius has been discontinued?
Also told me that apparently the Prius has been discontinued?
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Not a very informed one. Not only is the Prius not being discontinued, it's getting a huge improvement for 2008 - lithium ion batteries and all new powertrain setup to provide better accelleration and 50% better fuel economy.
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I believe its the 2009 Prius that's getting the re-design, including the lithium batteries, more powerful engine and ~100 mpg. I wish it was the 2008 as I am waiting for the '09 to come out so I can buy one.
As for the hybrid or non-hybrid RX issue, I have the 400h and love it. I think most buyers of hybrids, whether Lexus or otherwise, don't buy hybrids to save gas. They buy hybrids because hybrids are much more enviornmentally friendly and because the technology is so cool. With a hybrid, you get rid of what was so inefficeint with internal comustion engines (ICE), i.e., poor performance, waste of engergy and excess pollution when accelerating or idiling by use of the hybrid system, and you take full of advantage of what is so efficient about an ICE engine - i.e., great efficiency, power and low emmissions at cruising speeds.
As for the hybrid or non-hybrid RX issue, I have the 400h and love it. I think most buyers of hybrids, whether Lexus or otherwise, don't buy hybrids to save gas. They buy hybrids because hybrids are much more enviornmentally friendly and because the technology is so cool. With a hybrid, you get rid of what was so inefficeint with internal comustion engines (ICE), i.e., poor performance, waste of engergy and excess pollution when accelerating or idiling by use of the hybrid system, and you take full of advantage of what is so efficient about an ICE engine - i.e., great efficiency, power and low emmissions at cruising speeds.
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I believe its the 2009 Prius that's getting the re-design, including the lithium batteries, more powerful engine and ~100 mpg. I wish it was the 2008 as I am waiting for the '09 to come out so I can buy one.
As for the hybrid or non-hybrid RX issue, I have the 400h and love it. I think most buyers of hybrids, whether Lexus or otherwise, don't buy hybrids to save gas. They buy hybrids because hybrids are much more enviornmentally friendly and because the technology is so cool. With a hybrid, you get rid of what was so inefficeint with internal comustion engines (ICE), i.e., poor performance, waste of engergy and excess pollution when accelerating or idiling by use of the hybrid system, and you take full of advantage of what is so efficient about an ICE engine - i.e., great efficiency, power and low emmissions at cruising speeds.
As for the hybrid or non-hybrid RX issue, I have the 400h and love it. I think most buyers of hybrids, whether Lexus or otherwise, don't buy hybrids to save gas. They buy hybrids because hybrids are much more enviornmentally friendly and because the technology is so cool. With a hybrid, you get rid of what was so inefficeint with internal comustion engines (ICE), i.e., poor performance, waste of engergy and excess pollution when accelerating or idiling by use of the hybrid system, and you take full of advantage of what is so efficient about an ICE engine - i.e., great efficiency, power and low emmissions at cruising speeds.
"Hybrids are all about fuel economy in the lower tier cars. i.e. Prius, Civic, etc. However, Lexus is not doing hyrbrids for fuel economy but rather performance. The CVT transmissions coupled with better 0-60 times, without using more gas is the selling point from a Lexus point of view."
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Kind of a tough place ... the more highway driving you do the LESS improvement you see in the fuel economy (relatively speaking compared to city fuel economy).
NON HYBRID city : 18mpg
HYBRID city : 31mpg
NON HYBRID hwy : 24mpg
HYBRID hwy: 27mpg
So you derive less fuel economy improvement if you are travelling mostly highway, BUT the way to drive more miles overall is to put on the highway miles.
I thought long and hard about getting the hybrid, but didn't just b/c a lot of my driving is on the highway and I couldn't quite justify the $6000-$7000 real world price difference.
NON HYBRID city : 18mpg
HYBRID city : 31mpg
NON HYBRID hwy : 24mpg
HYBRID hwy: 27mpg
So you derive less fuel economy improvement if you are travelling mostly highway, BUT the way to drive more miles overall is to put on the highway miles.
I thought long and hard about getting the hybrid, but didn't just b/c a lot of my driving is on the highway and I couldn't quite justify the $6000-$7000 real world price difference.
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My BMW dealer will not even take hybrid in trade unless you are willing to take a serious bath. They have several brands on the lot and cannot sell them.