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Lexus HS 250h tops 1,500 pre-orders in Japan

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Old 07-13-09, 12:13 PM
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Default Lexus HS 250h tops 1,500 pre-orders in Japan

Lexus HS 250h tops 1,500 pre-orders in Japan



Though it has already been ruled out for Europe where diesel is king, the 2010 Lexus HS 250h dedicated hybrid sedan is planned for the U.S. If early sales reports out of Japan are any indication, the HS should prove a bigger hit than some might have predicted. Over 1,500 buyers have placed orders for the car in its homeland.

The HS 250h won't actually arrive in any garages until later this summer, both in the U.S. and Japan, but sales have already tripled the carmaker's monthly target for Japan.

There is even some discussion that some of the sales of the HS could be due to the blockbuster demand for the new 2010 Toytota Prius pushing delivery back by 8 months. Customers that don't want to wait might be switching their orders to the more luxurious, if somewhat less efficient, hybrid Lexus.
http://www.motorauthority.com/lexus-...-in-japan.html
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I think it will do well here in the US. I like the HS250h a lot.
Old 07-13-09, 12:42 PM
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For the target consumer looking for luxury, technology, and "green"-ness; the HS is perfect.

It will sell very well to that certain market.

I doubt that many who buy it will be found in ClubLexus. The praise will come from outside our Forums...
Old 07-13-09, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
For the target consumer looking for luxury, technology, and "green"-ness; the HS is perfect.

It will sell very well to that certain market.

I doubt that many who buy it will be found in ClubLexus. The praise will come from outside our Forums...
That's how I see, not going to be a favorite with the sporting enthusiast. But Lexus is carving out a niche hybrid market that others haven't addressed well.
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Another hit it seems. Shame Lexus of Europe won't get it.
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Looks aside, the rest of the package looks to have potential...and for Europe, I would seriously reconsider the decision not to bring the HS 250h there (emissions reasons? Why not an HS 200h then, like how they got an IS 200 when we got the IS 300).
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Looks aside, the rest of the package looks to have potential...and for Europe, I would seriously reconsider the decision not to bring the HS 250h there (emissions reasons? Why not an HS 200h then, like how they got an IS 200 when we got the IS 300).
I have no idea why...maybe b/c its based on the Avensis, which we don't get?
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Originally Posted by encore888
Looks aside, the rest of the package looks to have potential...and for Europe, I would seriously reconsider the decision not to bring the HS 250h there (emissions reasons? Why not an HS 200h then, like how they got an IS 200 when we got the IS 300).
Two things against the HS250h in Europe:

(1) Europe likes diesels over petrol hybrids.
(2) Lexus ain't that big there (yet).

I believe in due time, the HS will make an appropriate splash onto the scene...
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Haven't we heard there *might* be another different hybrid for Europe ?
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
Haven't we heard there *might* be another different hybrid for Europe ?
Dude good question, not sure what they are doing in Europe. We have read they are going to take Europe more serious and they aim to sell 100k there in the next few years. I have NO IDEA how that will be possible as they now only sell the RX hybrid there and there is no HS. They must have something up their sleeve that we don't know about b/c Lexus rarely just says something in the media without doing it.

I am going to assume a car below the IS will come, a small hatch or something....No word on more diesels either.
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Good points all...their Europe strategy seems to be more regionally specified now, for instance only bringing the RX 450h over there and not the RX 350 this time. It would seem to make sense to have the HS there but perhaps Japan and N. America are to be the main markets.
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well the RX450 (and 400h) doesnt/ didnt have much competition. Just now are the clean diesels popping in. The RX is the only hybrid besides the prius that doesnt have any compromises in terms of battery packaging. It just gets good mileage and good power.

However, the HS has to compete to dozens of diesel alternatives in the compact/small car segment. I dont think it will do well there
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Originally Posted by flipside909
I think it will do well here in the US. I like the HS250h a lot.
I'm with flip. I haven't had a chance to review one (it's not here on the East Coast yet), but, from what I already know about it, I think it is going to be a big success here in America.

In Europe, I agree, it would be more questionable, because of Europe's addiction to diesels. And, I can understand the Lexus reluctance to spend a lot of money developing a diesel for it when they already had much of what they needed in the new Prius drivetrain as it is. Hybrids, in addition, don't need the periodic urea-solution refills every 10-15K miles that many new Blue-Tec diesels do.
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I think it will do well in America, but 2.4L is really holding this car back from power and economy.
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
I think it will do well in America, but 2.4L is really holding this car back from power and economy.

Power is not the name of the game in small hybrids. And, with the Prius roots of the hybrid drivetrain (some differences, but basically the same), good economy is virtually assured.


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