Swacer

Tahoe/Yukon (Denali is a trim level....)

Craigyyy

Toyota has already told us that the 2017 4runner and 2017 GX will not have collision avoidance. Hinting that 2018 will, likely with a redesign.

And the 3 row RX precluding the GX is all BS. The GX and LX are already both 3 rows. The Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia and Landcruiser are all 3 row SUVs. They all sell well.

daman7676

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Good point Craigyyy...(by the way, my 100th post!)

jjscsix

Seriously, you felt the need to correct that I felt the Denali was the more premium version to compare to the GX. I realize that may seem to conflict with me including the Tahoe, but I was actually comparing those vehicles. I've owned four previous generation Tahoes. When I compared them this time I was surprised to learn that the Tahoe offers most of the premium features the Denali has. The main difference in what you can get on them is the bigger engine. But I do get your point.

T4Fun

we have the PCS, not sure there is difference, but its not as good as suburas eyesight.
lexus is always behind with the latest tech

Chocolate

Looks like sales have been good in the U.S. so a discontinue would be surprising:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_GX#Sales

T4Fun

only because gas is low.
when it rebounds, look out

Craigyyy

Gas was still high in 2013, 2014. And gas is still not exactly low these days.

And finally, even just 12,000 units/year is still $600M of sales.

T4Fun

where do you live?
it was 4-5 bucks a gallon before.
now it still under 3 for 93 octance here.

Craigyyy

I guess I need to kiss the days of $1.50/gallon goodbye

At our high around here we never really got above $4.00/gallon for premium. Mostly mid $3.00s. I might have paid over $4.00 during that summer of 2008.

So when I pull up today and see premium at $2.89 or $2.99 when regular is $1.99 it pisses me off.

DocT

The premium in CA is about that price at Costco, and only 10 cents different in regular. Why the premium is $1 different from regular?

I have read some articles said that even the car is required to use premium, one can still use regular as long as the engine does not knock. Do you guys have any comments on that?

Swacer

If you are worried about gas prices, why are you worried about a luxury SUV? Heck, SUVs in general? This isn't a market that you can penny pinch.

Eppieguy

The computer will adjust if you run regular, it's not recommended but it can be done. My company cars are all high end cars (S550, LS460, SL550 GS350 etc.) and the drivers all put regular in them as they are leased and don't care. We do 75k mile leases and never had a problem with anyone of them over the last 10+ years we have been leasing those cars. Also my Dad always ran regular in his 05 Corvette which requires premium grade as well, never had a problem. I still run premium in my GX and my Corvette just because I own mine and I don't have an issue paying the higher prices.

Just my .02

T4Fun

hey boss.
couldnt care less. Gas should be $5 a gallon imho and I would buy an lx if it drove to my expectations.

Craigyyy

Good question, I'd like to know too.

Most of premium gas requirement on luxury cars is marketing. Only high-performance applications truly require high-octane. As Eppieguy said, modern engines will adjust timing to avoid knock and you'll never have any problems.

GX and LX in particular are bogus on the premium fuel requirement. Same engines as in the Toyota application, same compression ratio, same everything. But premium is "required" in the manual.