twylie

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$11k is probably 2/3 of what the GS430 is worth. That's definitely more than I'd pay to replace mine, especially since the '06 depreciation is now slowing down. I'd love to have the Gen5 Nav, but the newer engine and 8 speed wouldn't be big enough draws for me.

If the new one is a color combo you prefer over your current car, I can see how that would have some value.

e-man

My 430 is silver on black. The 460 is charcoal gray in black. Both are acceptable colors to me but I prefer silver.

UCFdude

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To be honest, it sound like the 430 you have is very well taken care of. I wouldn't trade it in and add 11k for the same car.

The power from the 430 vs 460 is not that much difference. I've driven both and they are both quick.
I would keep the car that paid off and leave it at that.
There is no point of spending 11k for the same car that you don't know much history about.
Plus silver look better

TexGS450

I say get the GS460 because you only live once!

e-man

Honestly, at this point, that would be the only reason to get it. And, I'm not saying that it's a bad reason. I learned today that the 460 most likely needs brakes all around. That's at least another $1,000 that I'll have to kick in.

TexGS450

Have you driven a 460 before? If so, was there not enough difference in performance? I've only driven a gs450h and a gs350, which I currently own. I personally cannot tell much of a difference in performance; however, the gs350 feels like the more nimble car.

My biggest question is what made you consider getting the 460 in the first place? Given the chance, I would definitely trade for a gs460, and then I'd be finished looking at cars for a very long time.

e-man

I wasn't in the market for a new car. I love my 430. It's a great car, a fast car, and it's in impeccable condition. Moreover, it's CPO and still under warranty for another year or 16,000 miles, whichever comes first. I was at an event about 4 months ago and happened to see a GS460 in the parking lot. It's a very rare car, and, in asking around at the event, I come to find out that it is owned by the grandfather of a friend of my son. Long story short, I told him that if he ever decides to sell the car to please call me because I'd like to buy it. I really never thought he'd call, but sure enough, about 4 months later, I received the call that he was ready. Knowing that my 90k service was coming up quickly, I figured that it would be worth at least taking a look, from a financial perspective, to see whether I could move up to a 2 year newer car with better "stuff" (better engine, transmission and nav) for a price that made sense and avoid paying the big bill of the 90k service in the process.

What I'm finding is that it will cost me about $11,000 to do the upgrade due to the fact that I have to cover his sales tax that he's losing on his trade in, plus I'll have to pay state sales tax when I go to register it. Also, I get no tax credit by selling my car to Carmax. Lastly, it looks like he needs brakes and a 60k service. Granted, the brakes and 60k mile service are a wash with the 90k mile service that I would have to do, so it's really just a question of whether it's worth it to pay $11,000 for a 2-year newer car that is out of warranty and that never needs a timing belt.

I really don't know, but I need to decide soon. Thanks for everyone's opinions. I really do appreciate it.

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Schmexus

I wouldn't even consider it for $11,000. That's insane. I had a chance to buy an 08 460 for $27k but decided to save myself $7k and buy a 350 that is ALMOST as fast, gets better gas mileage and has the 6 speed trans that I personally preferred.

On the other hand I would have loved to have had that 460 for the rare points, torque, and sound. They are amazing vehicles.

49erGS460

I second Tex's opinion here.. I too owned a CPO'd GS350 and was always looking at other cars and upgrading. Truth is, I wasn't truly happy with my purchase. Ended up selling her 8 months later. Now with the GS460 I feel like I finally got a car that I'll be satisfied with for the foreseeable future. The 4GS just doesn't get me excited with the V6, but that's just me.

Put the numbers aside and get what you think will make you happy for the long term.. You'll regret it later if you don't..

dzell81

I've only been in my 06 GS430 for a year, but I'm already considering upgrading. Other than the obvious differences (engine size, hp, tq, mpg, etc), is there anything else different? I'm thinking along the lines of audio and other convenience items. I'm losing patience with the dated audio and NAV system my 06 ML has.

I won't be offended if someone reprimands me and links to a list that’s on the forum somewhere.

RYKR

Mine is a 08 GS460 and from what I observed the 08+ GS460's has revised front bumper and grille, signaled mirrors, revised steering wheel buttons, italic text on speedo gauge, revised shift gate, fully painted rear bumper, front seats have black chrome inserts ... as stated above bigger engine, 2 extra transmission gears and most importantly timing chain for the engine

tucker21

you keep bringing up the "$1500 timing belt" job.
the dealer just rapes you beyond belief and it's reprehensible.
you can buy the OEM belt and water pump kit from sewell parts for like $120 and any competent mechanic can do the job for like $150 in labor.
doing the 90K or any of the major services at the dealer is a joke.

not trying to talk you out of getting a new car just figured I'd throw that out there.

dzell81

So nothing major on the infotainment front changes when upping to the 460? That is my biggest issue with my current car.

twylie

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all 2007+ GS models got the Gen 5 Navigation/Infotainment which looks better and opens up better add on options for 3rd party plug n play kits.

ThomasGS4

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I'm curious to know what reputable shop you're going to that will charge <$300, not to mention someone that will charge only $150 for such a labor intensive job?