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OFFICIAL 2008 GS 460 Thread! (new info 342hp?)

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Old 04-07-06, 01:15 PM
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I called the dealer and asked about the GS350. It should be here in Oct and have the IS's engine w/306hp.

My family and I could be in the market for a new car. Not sure, but it would be the 5 vs E vs GS. The 5 isn't a reliable car to own, so that is out of question. I just don't like the E in terms of looks, exterior and interior. That leaves the GS, but we don't really want another Lexus. Not to offend anyone, just that we've owned a couple of Lexus', and kinda want something diff. I view Lexus, MB, and BMW as great brands w/different pros/cons. But I do like the look of the GS a lot, so we'll see what happens...
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Old 04-07-06, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nas
I called the dealer and asked about the GS350. It should be here in Oct and have the IS's engine w/306hp.

My family and I could be in the market for a new car. Not sure, but it would be the 5 vs E vs GS. The 5 isn't a reliable car to own, so that is out of question. I just don't like the E in terms of looks, exterior and interior. That leaves the GS, but we don't really want another Lexus. Not to offend anyone, just that we've owned a couple of Lexus', and kinda want something diff. I view Lexus, MB, and BMW as great brands w/different pros/cons. But I do like the look of the GS a lot, so we'll see what happens...
Check the A6?
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Old 04-07-06, 03:03 PM
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Nope. Not b/c of the car, but b/c of their service. It is very convenient to have Lexus, MB,or BMW drive an hour or so to pick up our car for service. Audi doesn't do this, thus we never really look at them, even though they make nice cars. I love the look of the A6, but the ease of getting car service is something my family and I value a lot. That's kinda one reason why we have not gone the BMW route. I think we would go toward BMW if we were leasing it, or getting it w/o I-drive b/c of their reliability.
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Old 04-10-06, 07:15 PM
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Yes it will, & it better. Just the new V8 on the gasoline LS will have about 380 hp,so with the addition of the electric motor with the hybrid, it should generate hp comparable to the BMW 760i & the Audi A8 W12, though probably not the 500 hp bi-turbo S600.
have a new 5 Liter V8 plus the electric motors of the Hybrid and a center differential that will send power front / rear making it AWD. It should get to 60 in under 5 seconds. I think it will take the Mercedes V12 S600.......and save gas and the atmosphere at the same time.

I have confirmed that the earlier reports of a fit issue with the GS460 powerplant are true and they are doing modifications now to make it work. The LS600hL is due out about this time next year so I would expect any GS460 to come after that at least. The GS350 will replace the GS300 in all variants and the engine will be retired unless needed in other countries. The GS450h version of the V6 is detuned to 292 HP inorder to make it start quickly for hybrid purposes. The GS350 will have the same version as the IS350. There are no plans to take the original GS300 motor and drop it into the IS at this time.

BTW, The GS450h is astounding to drive. I can't wait for its big brother next year.

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Old 04-10-06, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockville
I heard today that the LS600hL will have a new 5 Liter V8 plus the electric motors of the Hybrid and a center differential that will send power front / rear making it AWD. It should get to 60 in under 5 seconds.
Thanks for the insider info, Rockville. Sounds like the rumors are becoming more and more true with each passing day.
I have confirmed that the earlier reports of a fit issue with the GS460 powerplant are true and they are doing modifications now to make it work.
I don't know what it is with Lexus, but I have to agree with some others that Lexus is not making good use of space at all. The GS is known to have the smallest interior and trunk space in its class already, and now apparantly with the current design it has the smallest engine bay? Come on, the Germans got what, the E500/E55 (soon E550/E63), 550i/M5, S6, all with 5.0L or bigger engines and some with even AWD. Lexus definitely can do better in this regard.

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Old 04-10-06, 09:24 PM
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good info....hopefully some new news from lexus for the upcoming gs models...
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thanks for the info, rock, definitely nice to hear the 600hl might be on a 5L v8. if that's the case that's going to be quite a bit more power

about the gs460, i have to say, if it's true, then it's probably one of the stupidest thing lexus has done recently....
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Old 04-10-06, 11:18 PM
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Wow....thats really cool about the LS600h. I had strong feelings that it would probably use a 5.0L engine.

About the GS460, as long as they make it work and not decrease performance. I would hope that the 8speed auto is what is giving them fitment issues. icant see this tranny being small by any means.
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That is sad about the engine fitment in the GS460. I defended Lexus in that other posts about the fitment issue saying a company like Lexus can't be that stupid and not think ahead far engouh to not make enough room for the new engine and only room for the old V8. I guess I stand corrected. I really don't get it at all. Where they really planning on using the old V8 for the entire 3rd gen GS cycle? Oh well, I'm all for the GS350 anyway so since that car is comfirmed I really don't care.
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Old 04-11-06, 06:50 AM
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Since the GS350 is pretty much confirmed to get the 3.5L IS350 306Hp engine, anyone know anything else about the specs? I predict it will also get the same larger brake and rotor specs as the IS350 being the HP figures are the same. What about the fuel efficiency? Any word on that?
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i can't wait for the AWD gs350. w00t.
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
Since the GS350 is pretty much confirmed to get the 3.5L IS350 306Hp engine, anyone know anything else about the specs? I predict it will also get the same larger brake and rotor specs as the IS350 being the HP figures are the same. What about the fuel efficiency? Any word on that?
if it's the same engine and drivetrain, i think the fuel efficiency numbers are going to be very close. there wasn't much difference between gs300 and is300 back then
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hm...so gs460 won't be coming out anytime soon...dang...wanted to know more info on the car...hope they can fix the engine fitments...
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Default Gs 350 Awd

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i can't wait for the AWD gs350. w00t.
If the GS430 wasn't offered in AWD form, and it has 300 hp, and the GS350 has 306 hp, I'm wondering if the GS350 will be offered in an AWD version?

Maybe I'm missing the boat, but typically the reason that AWD is not offered on more powerful versions, is that the drivetrain can't handle the additional power. Hopefully, they will upgrade the system to accommodate, but then, why wouldn't they have done that in concert with the IS 250/350 design?
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Originally Posted by PeteV
If the GS430 wasn't offered in AWD form, and it has 300 hp, and the GS350 has 306 hp, I'm wondering if the GS350 will be offered in an AWD version?

Maybe I'm missing the boat, but typically the reason that AWD is not offered on more powerful versions, is that the drivetrain can't handle the additional power. Hopefully, they will upgrade the system to accommodate, but then, why wouldn't they have done that in concert with the IS 250/350 design?
There is no mystery to the GS350 AWD whatsoever at all. It's already on sale in Japan and you can find all the information you want at Lexus's Japanese website:
http://lexus.jp/models/gs/spec/spec.html
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