Car and Driver $55K sedan comparo: 1) M45, 2) RL, 3) GS430, 4) E350, 5) A6, 6) 530i
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Car and Driver $55K sedan comparo: 1) M45, 2) RL, 3) GS430, 4) E350, 5) A6, 6) 530i
Car and Driver $55K sedan comparo:
1. M45 (219 points)
2. RL (215 points)
3. GS430 (208 points)
4. E350 (202 points)
5. A6 (199 points)
6. 530i (198 points
7. STS (191 points)
8. S-type (181 points)
"The M45 rocks. Game over."
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1. M45 (219 points)
2. RL (215 points)
3. GS430 (208 points)
4. E350 (202 points)
5. A6 (199 points)
6. 530i (198 points
7. STS (191 points)
8. S-type (181 points)
"The M45 rocks. Game over."
http://secure.grubbs.com/cardriver.pdf
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Haha not really. We already know C/D is biased. We'll have to see what the other comparisons will say. Too early to tell at this point. I have no doubt in my mind who would be the sales king of the GS, RL and M. The M45 is definitely the performance oriented vehicle of the bunch. It did so well, it put the 5 series to shame.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Thanks for the review, saw this coming. Congrats to the M45. RL as 2nd= but overall for the money, the Japanese DESTROYED the Germans. Its not even funny or close.
But no doubt, the E and the 5 will continue to be sales leaders, followed by the GS. I doubt that the M will sell more than the GS. Image and prestige counts for a lot in this segment.
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Haha not really. We already know C/D is biased. We'll have to see what the other comparisons will say. Too early to tell at this point. I have no doubt in my mind who would be the sales king of the GS, RL and M. The M45 is definitely the performance oriented vehicle of the bunch. It did so well, it put the 5 series to shame.
C/D is biased? please explain how so...
i thought you guys said C/D always bimmer biased? but it ranked 6th ?
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Originally Posted by DC52E55
C/D is biased? please explain how so...
i thought you guys said C/D always bimmer biased? but it ranked 6th ?
i thought you guys said C/D always bimmer biased? but it ranked 6th ?
As for the bimmer placing 6th, it's not surprising(it's ugly too ), it's only the I6 530i, I think they should have tested the 545i & E500 in this comparison & adjust for price in their rankings instead.
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Originally Posted by DC52E55
C/D is biased? please explain how so...
i thought you guys said C/D always bimmer biased? but it ranked 6th ?
i thought you guys said C/D always bimmer biased? but it ranked 6th ?
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I don't think anyone is surprised that the M45 came in first, it is the most driver oriented and C&D loves drivers cars.
I think that Lexus, Acura, and Infiniti owners/fans should all rejoice. They were the TOP 3 cars!
Personally, I would like to see everyone get along, Japan has cars to be very proud of.
A few year ago, this would be unheard of!
I think that Lexus, Acura, and Infiniti owners/fans should all rejoice. They were the TOP 3 cars!
Personally, I would like to see everyone get along, Japan has cars to be very proud of.
A few year ago, this would be unheard of!
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Funny, I was predicting this exact finish, with possible exception of the Audi and BMW. But they were only seperated by one point.
I'm glad to see the overpriced, unreliable German machines get trounced by the new Japanese luxury cars.
The M, RL, and GS each deserved their respective finishes.
I'm glad to see the overpriced, unreliable German machines get trounced by the new Japanese luxury cars.
The M, RL, and GS each deserved their respective finishes.
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Originally Posted by jrock65
That's the thing I immediately noticed. That the top 3 were Japanese, and the next 3 were German. Just a year ago, the Japanese weren't even on the radar in this segment.
But no doubt, the E and the 5 will continue to be sales leaders, followed by the GS. I doubt that the M will sell more than the GS. Image and prestige counts for a lot in this segment.
But no doubt, the E and the 5 will continue to be sales leaders, followed by the GS. I doubt that the M will sell more than the GS. Image and prestige counts for a lot in this segment.
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Originally Posted by chicagoblknazn
let's behave bois......
Also, looking at the first couple paragraphs, the cars were based on price. a 55k price cap. They wanted to base the comparo on engines (looks like V-8) but b/c the Acura RL is V-6 only , the comparo was changed to price, which they admit, hurt the Germans. Other things I noticed
Sad but the STS is also BRAND NEW and finished 2nd to last.
The V-8 Audi 4.2 A6 finished 5th. So not sure if V-8s in the E or 5 would have helped.
The S-type has finished last in every comparison in every magazine the past few years. Pathetic.
The 5 has gone from magazine darling "always #1" to just another car. Sad, and I think the styling has more to do with it than they say.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I agree with the 2nd paragraph, disagree with the first. The GS welcomes the M and RL to the party. The GS has been around since 1993 and did impact this segment with the 2GS starting in 1998. The GS opened the doors for the M and RL.