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Old 04-04-15, 10:51 AM
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As the title says im going to install a whole new system into my 1998 lexus gs300, which has nakamichi. Decided im gonna just swap everything out (Amp, Sub, Headunit, speakers, and all the wires.) Got a few questions and wanted some advice on what I should know before taking this project. First off i wanted to let it be know im not a complete noob on these kinda installations, I previously installed a headunit and rear view camera to my dads 2012 chevrolet express, but that was super easy compared to this because he only has two speakers in his whole van so i had it all powered by just the headunit and the rear view camera was just a simple drill in the back, and hooking it up to the reverse lights then hiding the wiring. Also gonna be installing some dynomat or stinger mat or fat mat havent decided yet. But I'm planning on ordering all the components and parts in the next couple days. Heres my shopping list if anyone can chime in if they have previous experience with either the components are anything i should know before install, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks so much in advanced
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Here's a complete list of all my parts im planning on ordering:

Quick Question: Need to know if i need to get an adapter to fit 61/2 inch speakers in the doors, if so where can i get some? Keep in mind the car has the nakamichi system installed now. Would rather avoid cutting anything unless i have to lol

Tweeters:
Power Acoustik NB-2 200-Watt 3-Way Tweeters
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009GBRS4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2G7ZV4SOVWZN9 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009GBRS4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2G7ZV4SOVWZN9

Speakers:

Kicker DS65 6.5" Coax Speakers (Pair) Rear!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004K4VSCG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I1T8QC30Q2EBQ7 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004K4VSCG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I1T8QC30Q2EBQ7

Kicker 11DS60 6.5-inch 2-way Car Audio Speakers (Pair) DS60 Front

http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-11DS60-6-5-inch-2-way-Speakers/dp/B004PKIQWA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172239&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Kicker+11DS60+6.5-inch+2-way+Car+Audio+Speakers+%28Pair%29+DS60+Front http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-11DS60-6-5-inch-2-way-Speakers/dp/B004PKIQWA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172239&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Kicker+11DS60+6.5-inch+2-way+Car+Audio+Speakers+%28Pair%29+DS60+Front

Subwoofer:
Will be either a

Kicker CVR104 10" Dual 4 ohm CompVR Series Car Subwoofer
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0037G2TYO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2RYS3Z3E0T1MU http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0037G2TYO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2RYS3Z3E0T1MU

OR a

Kicker 10C104 Comp 10-Inch Subwoofer 4 Ohm (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036W7OTY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I8Z4LRMSXJE5S http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036W7OTY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I8Z4LRMSXJE5S

Amps:
Will be either a Rockford Fosgate R600X5 Prime 5-Channel Amplifier

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BF6HXA8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=IOPWJQAPM2VYC http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BF6HXA8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=IOPWJQAPM2VYC

Or a

Kenwood KAC-7005PS Performance Series 5 Channel Power Amplifier

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00786XNS0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I4FACGKQV5JSY http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00786XNS0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I4FACGKQV5JSY

Headunit
will be a Kenwood DDX-371 2-Din Multimedia DVD Receiver

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0FXH20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2ZNGXMZ9OBPWM&psc=1 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0FXH20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2ZNGXMZ9OBPWM&psc=1

Dash Kit
Whcih ever one matches the dash color i heard the Metra is more of a black than grey color anyone chime in?

Metra 95-8152 Double DIN Installation Kit for 1998-2005 Lexus GS Vehicles

Metra 95-8152 Double DIN Installation Kit for 1998-2005 Lexus GS Vehicles

Scosche Dash Kit for 1998-03 Lexus Gs Kit

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NWEJVG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3SEZ9XKDG1NV5 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NWEJVG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3SEZ9XKDG1NV5

Wires:

RCA AH16100SR 100 Ft. 16-Gauge Speaker Wire

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0029HHIDY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I38HCLKRLN6VDE&psc=1 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0029HHIDY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I38HCLKRLN6VDE&psc=1

KICKER 09XW1620 X-Series Twisted Pair Speaker Wire (16-Gauge, 20 Feet)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00286ETSI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2OYH2B2DVAMJ1 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00286ETSI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2OYH2B2DVAMJ1

Metra 70-1761 Radio Wiring Harness For Toyota 87-Up Power 4 Speaker

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002BEQJ8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2QBQ4QMVERV2T http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002BEQJ8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2QBQ4QMVERV2T

Stinger SGW9920 9 Conductor Speedwire 20ft Roll, Black

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ODEZ1G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3BGROZUUQEES9 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ODEZ1G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3BGROZUUQEES9

DB LINK CL17Z Double-Shielded Competition Series RCA Adapter (17 ft)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OM468Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2UJ407LI7DPKK http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OM468Q/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I2UJ407LI7DPKK


Sound Damping

Stinger RKXDK Roadkill Expert Series Sound Damping Material Door Kit 12-Foot
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HHX606/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3IUUT50P06WC8 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HHX606/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=HMQWMQOK7DAQ&coliid=I3IUUT50P06WC8

Or

FatMat 50 Sq Ft x 80 mil Thick Self-Adhesive RattleTrap Sound Deadener Bulk Pack w/Install Kit

http://www.amazon.com/FatMat-Self-Adhesive-RattleTrap-Deadener-Install/dp/B003TUNRGM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172029&sr=1-2&keywords=fatmat http://www.amazon.com/FatMat-Self-Adhesive-RattleTrap-Deadener-Install/dp/B003TUNRGM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172029&sr=1-2&keywords=fatmat

Or

Extreme Dynamat Xtreme Bulk Pack Heat & Sound Deadening

http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Dynamat-Xtreme-Sound-Deadening/dp/B002S4TPP2/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172119&sr=1-4&keywords=dynamat http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Dynamat-Xtreme-Sound-Deadening/dp/B002S4TPP2/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428172119&sr=1-4&keywords=dynamat

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You dont need that wire harness for the deck since you're replacing the stock amp (wouldnt fit anyways)

as for adapter plates, do a search, there's write ups for that, including one I wrote.

Are you actually gonna do this, or is this just something you'd like to do?
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Originally Posted by Mr Jokster
You dont need that wire harness for the deck since you're replacing the stock amp (wouldnt fit anyways)

as for adapter plates, do a search, there's write ups for that, including one I wrote.

Are you actually gonna do this, or is this just something you'd like to do?

Okay so i'll remove that harness, ill look at your write up on adapter plates,
Yes, i'm going to order the parts in the next few days.
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Try and match up brands with all the components. No reason to have so many different brands, it would be much neater better to say you have all one brand rather than mixing and matching parts. Not to mention, brands can work better with their own components.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jokster
Try and match up brands with all the components. No reason to have so many different brands, it would be much neater better to say you have all one brand rather than mixing and matching parts. Not to mention, brands can work better with their own components.
So should try to go all Kicker?
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Even down to the wires though? I understand the speakers and maybe the sub and tweeters but the wires too?
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Thats all up to you bro and how much you wanna spend. Personally I dont go with mainstream audio like kicker, fosgate, pioneer etc.. Its all mass produced. I like going high end Something like, Focal, Hertz Audio or Rainbow. I'm running all Hertz and Focal.
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I'd save up and get better speakers. I would skip the rears and just use the extra money for the front components. Also don't forget fuses.
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Originally Posted by mcsddd
I'd save up and get better speakers. I would skip the rears and just use the extra money for the front components. Also don't forget fuses.
I'm not looking for much an improvement from the stock (nak) system so unless you know personally that these are lower grade, and lower quality speakers from stock, I think I'm gonna stick with them. Can't skip the rears, always got people in the back, by fuses you mean just regular speaker fuses?
would these work?

Kicker AFS200 200 Amp Platinum-Plated AFS Fuses with Color Coded Casing (2-Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L2SF9OG/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_M1mivb0EBMBK6
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Originally Posted by mcsddd
I'd save up and get better speakers. I would skip the rears and just use the extra money for the front components. Also don't forget fuses.
Agreed. With an amp and no bass, the stocks will keep up. Personally I like the vocals given by the stock 4" setup over my focal 6.5s. If I did it all over again (and I will be), I'd go 3-way component setup up front with a tweet, a 4" and a 6.5".
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With a decent deck, you could probably even skip on the 5 channel and just do a mono sub amp and put the money saved towards better components or sub. A good deck can put out just as much as those 5 channels.
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Agreed. With an amp and no bass, the stocks will keep up. Personally I like the vocals given by the stock 4" setup over my focal 6.5s. If I did it all over again (and I will be), I'd go 3-way component setup up front with a tweet, a 4" and a 6.5".
I would want to go with a full interior set up ( swap all speakers out all at the same time) and i heard that its noticeable if you have different brand speakers all over the car,currently it has the nakamichi system in there so that means ive already got the 61/2 inch speakers, heard i cant mix and match the speakers though.

With a decent deck, you could probably even skip on the 5 channel and just do a mono sub amp and put the money saved towards better components or sub. A good deck can put out just as much as those 5 channels.
Could you give me a recommendation for a decent deck?
So I should go full coax if i wanted better sound quality? Then for the front i could swap the original nak tweeters that are at the top of the door panel for aftermarket as well?
In addition, I would rather avoid getting a sub that requires a box, would rather get an open air sub to just mount on to the existing bracket in the trunk.
Thinking of getting this one:


http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-Comp-07C104-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B000NU2Q3G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428249485&sr=8-1&keywords=kicker+10+inch+subwoofer+open+air http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-Comp-07C104-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B000NU2Q3G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428249485&sr=8-1&keywords=kicker+10+inch+subwoofer+open+air

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The other thing is these dash kits that ive chosen do you guys know if either of them match the interior of the car's existing dash? Don't want the kit to stand out of place you know?
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Get the JDM Toyota dash kit, it matches perfectly. I'd spend as much as you can on good components and plenty of power for the front and not worry too much about the rears, if you do the front right the rear seat passengers will be fine. The Nakamichi system has 4's in enclosures in the doors, you'll need to make or buy adapter plates for 6.5's. I've seen them on eBay but if you've got a jigsaw they're not hard to make yourself. The mids for the component set would be in the doors and the tweeters could be mounted in the stock location in the sail panels.


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