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Old 05-13-09, 03:15 PM   #1
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Definitely recommend the Road Force Balancing!!! When I bought Dave's car, it shook above 60mph and I got the Road force balancing (vs counter-balancing as was done before I bought the car) and now, she's right as rain.
Also, as mentioned before, hub rings are a must!!
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Old 05-13-09, 05:20 PM   #2
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Hello guys, I was told my the dealer that the later model for GS300/400 '98, they change the steering rack guide from a roller type to a seat type and the steering rack mounting bushings have been modified, they don't recommend to tight the rack tensioner because of the metal plate will rub against each other, and it will cost wear and tear and even producing more damaging to the parts. They recommend to change the Steering Rack Guide and Bushings, and not just a bushing alone. I hope this will help. If anyone would like to tackle this, I posted the required parts and tools for changing the Steering Rack Guide under GS300/400 Steering Flutter Field Fix Procedure.
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Old 05-12-09, 04:00 PM   #3
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never mind my allen was too small...arg....isnt it 5/8"? T hats what my allen wrench size is but its wayyy smaller then the bolt
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Old 05-12-09, 04:38 PM   #4
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Problem solved... tired balance fix the vibration
Flipped 2 front tires

NEW PROBLEM...
Couldnt get the rear tires off cuz its too stretched, dam it

also couldnt get my car on the alignment rack... dam it again....

tomorrows mission - going to leswab for alignment
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Old 05-12-09, 04:53 PM   #5
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GS300ToM - When I worked at Toyota, I had to road force my wheels about every 5k miles. I balanced and rotated pretty much every time I took the tires off. For the first 1-2k miles, it drives awesome... But after a while you will start to notice it will start to slightly come back. Let us know, keep us updated.
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Old 05-13-09, 11:09 AM   #6
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GS300ToM - When I worked at Toyota, I had to road force my wheels about every 5k miles. I balanced and rotated pretty much every time I took the tires off. For the first 1-2k miles, it drives awesome... But after a while you will start to notice it will start to slightly come back. Let us know, keep us updated.
that just means u werent fixing the right problem sir. i did do a road force balance but man it wasnt cheap either and i cant imagine doing it every 5k. **** that....even if you did it at work and didnt have to pay for it, doing it so often would annoy me too! im thinking of the bushing next...even though i hardly ever notice this anymore
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Old 05-14-09, 01:17 PM   #7
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that just means u werent fixing the right problem sir. i did do a road force balance but man it wasnt cheap either and i cant imagine doing it every 5k. **** that....even if you did it at work and didnt have to pay for it, doing it so often would annoy me too! im thinking of the bushing next...even though i hardly ever notice this anymore
Thanks for the update... When I worked there, I would bring my car all the time, when I brought my car in, I pulled the wheels off if I had time. When I spun them up, they would be slightly off, can you explain that? The Road force would tell me the wheel is out of balance before it was removed from the machine. I even went as far as taking the tires off, measuring the rim runout and matching the tire up with the rim, where the machine told me to, all 4 rims are ok. I have even tried hand torquing all lug nuts, I've used a torque stick as well, neither last more than a 3k miles. I am not saying that my problem lies deeper than the wheels, I am just saying when that the wheels themselves had to be rebalanced pretty often. I have done countless balance and rotates at Toyota, I now how to use these Hunter machines with my eyes closed, I just haven't had any luck either with 16's or 17's on the GS. I have balanced 3 sets of GS wheels, and no matter what, after time the GS develops a steering wheel shake. Something is causing the tires to loose their balance after a few thousand miles. Like I said, I worked, there, it was free, and took me about 15 minutes for all 4 tires. I have replaced steering rack and sway bar bushings, the difference is noticeable, however it still likes to shake sometimes, but not all the time. I guess just some 2GS are just cursed with a wheel shake. Do OEM wheels need hub centric rings?

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Old 05-14-09, 02:02 PM   #8
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Do OEM wheels need hub centric rings?
No, they are hubcentric wheels... assuming you are talking about the Lexus EOM that came with the car. Might wanna ask the wheel experts in the wheel section. It could be warped or something.
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Old 05-13-09, 11:30 AM   #10
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update-- still shake a tiny bit but ill get over haha but not as bad as before tho, imma try to adjust the rack on friday and see wat happens..
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Old 05-13-09, 12:29 PM   #11
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update-- still shake a tiny bit but ill get over haha but not as bad as before tho, imma try to adjust the rack on friday and see wat happens..
BUY the HUB RINGS!!!!!
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Old 05-13-09, 12:42 PM   #12
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Old 05-14-09, 05:54 AM   #13
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Have you changed your ball joints?
For me the shake i use to have is totally gone, i had a bad shake at the 100Km/hr(55-65miles/hr) and got hub centric rings which got rid of 80% but it wasn't until i changed my Ball joints that i eliminated the problem. Mind you new ball joints without hub rings made the shake even worst lol so try the rings first.
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Old 05-14-09, 09:19 AM   #14
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yes i did, ball joint caster rack bushing u name it.. haha
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Old 05-14-09, 11:15 AM   #15
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If you still have the same tires you had before replacing bushings, you could have uneven wear or flatspots on the tires because of previous worn suspension parts. If you get a roadforce balance make sure they show you the runout numbers. That will pretty much determine whether or not you have flatspots.
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