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Old 02-05-08, 12:10 AM   #31
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SAFC is just marginally enough. I used a SAFC as my very first piggy back. Although it worked, I'd recommend against it. Think about it this way...SAFC $300 or FIC for $450 or so. Not that much of a difference in price, but the FIC is a world better than the SAFC.

well the safc been on my car for about 2 years now, i guest its now to somewhat upgrade to the FIC,
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Old 02-05-08, 01:13 PM   #32
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ElitistK sir i will be pm'n you on some questions ive got this exact kit
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Old 02-05-08, 03:26 PM   #33
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well the safc been on my car for about 2 years now, i guest its now to somewhat upgrade to the FIC,
SAFC just plays around with fuel, while F/IC intercept fuel injector signals and also lets you adjust MAF, o2, and ignition timing.

theoretically, F/IC can add/remove fuel without the stock ECU fighting back, simply because it will fool the stock ECU to think everything is within the MAF's readings. By modifying o2 sensor signals, you can also trick the ECU into thinking it's in "good shape" when in fact you have more air entering the engine and AFR going through a very wide range.

People have been able to make the F/IC work without CELs and tune without stock ECU compromising anything. Just depends on how good of a tuner is working with the F/IC.

Also, FIC allows you to only retard timing, no advancing. This may seem to be an disadvantage but in fact it's a huge advantage, simply because you cannot blow your engine just for adding timing.

it's a phenomenal piggyback.

also, my.is store is closed. They closed on the day right after i ordered my patch harness....which means i'm set back for another week.
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Old 02-05-08, 05:40 PM   #34
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Nice work can't wait for the outcome
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Old 02-05-08, 09:07 PM   #35
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Looks awesome!! I love reading the garage engineering threads!

I did have one question, where do you source the universal piping? I have an idea for my GS and I want to fabricate some stuff using 3" piping. TIA!
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Old 02-05-08, 10:11 PM   #36
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this totally sucks....damnit...you guys keep tempting me with these NA-T's....and for cheap too...1200 for a kit and my wrenching time...well thats putting it mildly....lol...I'm also tempted to buy a 85-87 Grand National and use that for my turbo obsession instead of my GS..haha
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Old 02-06-08, 10:42 AM   #37
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Looks awesome!! I love reading the garage engineering threads!

I did have one question, where do you source the universal piping? I have an idea for my GS and I want to fabricate some stuff using 3" piping. TIA!
xspower comes with 2.5" and 3" universal piping with couplers and t-bolts. ebay has them as well. so far, there isn't a custom fit ge-t piping for the gs yet.
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Old 02-06-08, 11:05 AM   #38
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Hey how much is my.is charging for the harness? I bought mine from Boomslang fabrication. It's $159 for 98-00/early01 and $199 for late01-05.
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Old 02-06-08, 12:38 PM   #39
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Hey how much is my.is charging for the harness? I bought mine from Boomslang fabrication. It's $159 for 98-00/early01 and $199 for late01-05.
my.is charges $149 shipped. add $20 for the late01-05 style.

the store is closed at this moment. i bought mine from there and the next day, the announced that the store is closed. i tried calling them and emailing them but they gave me no response.....so i finally gave up.
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Old 02-06-08, 02:19 PM   #41
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Great write up! I read something that I'll probably never use in my life xD but thanks anyway!!!!11oneone!!!one

Love the set up btw ;]
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Old 02-06-08, 11:04 PM   #42
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this is soooooo tempting!!!!!!!
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Old 02-07-08, 09:57 AM   #44
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the turbo gs movement alive. Who is next?

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Old 02-07-08, 10:19 AM   #45
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What year patch harness did you buy? That sucks, I have heard a lot of bad things from my.is store so I stayed away from them. PM sent...
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