Luxury package: Sport vs Sport+
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Luxury package: Sport vs Sport+
I can’t tell the difference between sport and sport+. The suspensions might be a tad stiffer, but I feel no difference at all in the steering feel. The steering doesn’t get any stiffer.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
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I can’t tell the difference between sport and sport+. The suspensions might be a tad stiffer, but I feel no difference at all in the steering feel. The steering doesn’t get any stiffer.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
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On the IS, the differences (in steering, shifting, throttle) really occur between Norm and Sport modes. Sport + is pretty much the same as Sport, but with suspension changes. Is it not that way on the GS?
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I can’t tell the difference between sport and sport+. The suspensions might be a tad stiffer, but I feel no difference at all in the steering feel. The steering doesn’t get any stiffer.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car. Before I ask Lexus to take a look, I would like some feedback from people that own the Luxury package
I have already read that in the F sport package, you can really tell the difference, but my question is specific to the Luxury package.
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I believe the only difference you should be detecting is that the suspension has stiffer dampening in Sport+ mode, which you said you might have detected...and you would be correct As for the steering - I believe the heavier steering feedback in Sport and Sport+ is the same, and you detected that there was no difference...and you would be correct. But, you then said; "I’m thinking something might be wrong with my car." And with that comment it prompted me to say; if you were looking for anything more or anything different between the Sport mode versus the Sport+ mode (from what you correctly detected) I think you may be a bit confused about the difference between Sport and Sport+ variable drive modes.
Sport+ is the Sport throttle response PLUS tightened shocks and rack n pinion. So you should feel a difference in the way the steering responds.
The steering feel is most noticeable on F Sport RWD because that is the model with VGRS. Without VGRS the Sport+ will dial back power steering boost but the rack gear ratio is still the same.
Last edited by rijc99; 03-18-15 at 01:38 PM.
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Sport changes the throttle response.
Sport+ is the Sport throttle response PLUS tightened shocks and rack n pinion. So you should feel a difference in the way the steering responds.
The steering feel is most noticeable on F Sport RWD because that is the model with VGRS. Without VGRS the Sport+ will dial back power steering boost but the rack gear ratio is still the same.
Sport+ is the Sport throttle response PLUS tightened shocks and rack n pinion. So you should feel a difference in the way the steering responds.
The steering feel is most noticeable on F Sport RWD because that is the model with VGRS. Without VGRS the Sport+ will dial back power steering boost but the rack gear ratio is still the same.
Last edited by bclexus; 03-18-15 at 02:25 PM.
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Forget about the F-Sport - because the topic is about a GS 350 Luxury Package and Sport mode versus Sport+ mode. Also, forget about the engine throttle response and also the transmission shift characteristics because both Sport mode and Sport+ mode are exactly the same for those two things. That said, the only things that remain are the steering and the suspension. We already know that the Sport mode changes the steering response. And, we already know that Sport+ mode changes the suspension. All that said, the only question that remains to be answered is - in a Luxury Package GS 350 does Sport+ mode 'further' change the steering in some way beyond what the Sport mode already has changed the steering?
So yes Sport S changes the shift points and throttle response. The Sport S+ adds in changes to shocks and steering. Sport S does nothing to the steering settings. So there is no further change that occurs from Sport S to Sport S+ as THE change occurs at Sport S+.
Scroll down to the variable driving modes pop out.
http://www.lexus.com/models/GS/features#
Last edited by rijc99; 03-18-15 at 02:31 PM.
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Going to Sport mode does indeed change the steering response. The question is - does Sport+ mode 'further' change the steering in some way beyond what the Sport mode already has changed the steering?
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Last edited by rijc99; 03-18-15 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Clarification
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Here's what Lexus says (from the link provided by rijc99 a couple posts above):
Sport S/S+ Mode
Sport S mode changes the gauge cluster lighting to a fiery red and alters the powertrain for faster gear changes and more dynamic throttle mapping. Available Sport S+ mode goes a step further by also tightening the suspension and increasing steering response. In both modes, the transmission's shift points are automatically altered coming into and out of corners for sharper acceleration.
Last edited by XFactor7; 03-18-15 at 02:40 PM.
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It seems so unless I'm mis-interpreting what that link says.
Here's what Lexus says (from the link provided by rijc99 a couple posts above):
Sport S/S+ Mode
Sport S mode changes the gauge cluster lighting to a fiery red and alters the powertrain for faster gear changes and more dynamic throttle mapping. Available Sport S+ mode goes a step further by also tightening the suspension and increasing steering response. In both modes, the transmission's shift points are automatically altered coming into and out of corners for sharper acceleration.
Here's what Lexus says (from the link provided by rijc99 a couple posts above):
Sport S/S+ Mode
Sport S mode changes the gauge cluster lighting to a fiery red and alters the powertrain for faster gear changes and more dynamic throttle mapping. Available Sport S+ mode goes a step further by also tightening the suspension and increasing steering response. In both modes, the transmission's shift points are automatically altered coming into and out of corners for sharper acceleration.