Lexus debuts 2016 GS F (Pictures Starting on Page 8)
01-13-15, 07:16 AM
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I know a lot of members on this forum and probably the entire Lexus community is a little thrown off by the lower hp compared to the M5, RS6, and E55. However, I am inclined to think that the reason they put the same engine from the RC-F into the GS-F is mainly because they want to maximize efficiency by producing the same engine and still want the pedigree of being a reliable car. I'm pretty sure Lexus has tested this 467 hp engine time and time again to make sure there are no engine malfunctions and by putting that RC-F engine and transmission into the GS-F, they can be assured that it would minimize any chances of future recurring problems with the car.
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01-13-15, 07:27 AM
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01-13-15, 08:41 AM
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Just out of curiosity how many units do BMW M5 and AMG and Audi move per year? I am curious to see how many Lexus needs to sell to satisfy all the Debbie Downers here that are calling this car a disappointment before it is released for sale.
Reminds me of all the overreacting that was going on with the RC before it was released. That one seems to be getting good reviews and selling too.
Also, if I want the GS F, I'm getting the GS F. I could care less about what it competes against or whether is has 23 less hp or is .3 seconds slower to 60.
Reminds me of all the overreacting that was going on with the RC before it was released. That one seems to be getting good reviews and selling too.
Also, if I want the GS F, I'm getting the GS F. I could care less about what it competes against or whether is has 23 less hp or is .3 seconds slower to 60.
At least five members got a second 4GS or two at the same time. We seem to forget all this and get so caught up with some details without even knowing how this thing performs in real life. We sit here and question why not this and not that. Media will say this and that. But the truth is Lexus did their homework and they chose to go this route. They don't just do it. IMO this thing looks more modern and appealing. And like the 4GS, it is a better buy overall. This thing will definitely sell.
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01-13-15, 09:32 AM
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Sexy as fuhhh..
01-13-15, 09:52 AM
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The GSF will be a perfect daily driver. It has enough HP, good looks and the lexus reliability. As long as Lexus prices it well, i'll most def be purchasing one.
01-13-15, 10:39 AM
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from 08 to 14 lexus sold less than 15k isf global, that's 2100 units a year. by comparison, from few articles i read, bmw sold over 10k copies of m3 annual (or at least 08 and 09).
i never researched on the numbers for m5 and e63, but given that i live in a region where expensive high end cars are not that "rare", i see more m5 and e63 overall than isf. so that might be a hint.
regardless, even if lexus has a car competing with the m5 and e63, there is no way they will sell close to as many cars. and i don't think i have to go into the m3 numbers. but if you think sales number is the metric here i think you are missing the point, because lexus would have lost like that.
i never researched on the numbers for m5 and e63, but given that i live in a region where expensive high end cars are not that "rare", i see more m5 and e63 overall than isf. so that might be a hint.
regardless, even if lexus has a car competing with the m5 and e63, there is no way they will sell close to as many cars. and i don't think i have to go into the m3 numbers. but if you think sales number is the metric here i think you are missing the point, because lexus would have lost like that.
That comes to roughly 150 units per month broken over the lifespan.
The numbers a bit skewed actually, because the IS F only had one strong selling year back in 2008. With over 4k units manufactured for sale Globally..
Now the 2016 GS F, Lexus announced today on the LiveStream, 1,600 units per year..
Well that comes to approx. 133 units per month Globally...
That is pretty much mirroring the exited IS F sales..
Coincidence..!!?? I think not...
Last year at 14' NAIAS the announced the RC F would have approx. 2,500 units per year..
Which comes to approx 208 units per month..
Only time will tell.. If they ran their numbers right..
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01-13-15, 10:50 AM
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01-13-15, 11:10 AM
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That's an awesome commercial. I hope they show that during the Super Bowl again.
01-13-15, 12:35 PM
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01-13-15, 12:53 PM
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A fully-loaded M4 breaks the $90k threshold so a fully-loaded M3 should be at the high $80s.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/12/2...-drive-review/
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/12/2...-drive-review/
