When is the refresh on the GS supposed to happen?
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They also got rid of the tape deck at some point after the 2008 MY.
How much longer before they get rid of the CD player? Does anyone actually still use CDs?
How much longer before they get rid of the CD player? Does anyone actually still use CDs?
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Like Joeb said the GS needs more power not less. For the AWD GS there have been no drivetrain changes since the 4th Gen was introduced. Without a better engine, no matter how good the suspension the GS will fall behind.
The GS-F is going to be a tough sell, it will be expensive and many already don't like the spindle of the GS. It will compete against the German heavy hitters and most likely get overlooked by most of the buying public. I was always more in favor of making the F Sport more distinctive, such as a souped up engine to go with other goodies.
The GS-F is going to be a tough sell, it will be expensive and many already don't like the spindle of the GS. It will compete against the German heavy hitters and most likely get overlooked by most of the buying public. I was always more in favor of making the F Sport more distinctive, such as a souped up engine to go with other goodies.
#35
You know it plays DVDs, right? It's gonna be there for awhile until they allow us to stream video. It'd be nice to be able to stream from a mobile device. I do use it for musical DVDs from time to time. I'm sure others use it to play movies with a bypass.
#36
Lexus Test Driver
Hey I use the CD slot to play DVDs!
#37
I've crossed the C300/400, E400 and Genesis off my list; they are great cars, but personally not for me.
At one stage, I was eyeing the GS450h for its great bottom end torque, superb linear torque curve, and superb mileage, however the extra 200 lbs and its effects on handling has always bothered me, and to a small extent, the boot; quickly getting the more compact and lightweight lithium battery into production will help the gasoline-electric hybrid's cause.
Now I suspect Toyota's hydrogen fuel cell powered electric technology will take over from gasoline-electric hybrid, as hydrogen becomes more readily available across the country?
However, for maximum in-line performance [albeit with handling compromised by the extra weight], gasoline-electric hybrids still come ahead of hyrdrogen powered fuel cell electric motors.
Presently, there just is no perfect engine; they are all compromised in one way or another.
So, I was about to get the current 4GS350, but now I'm sitting out for September 2015's facelifted 4.5GS350.
I think Benz has done really well to surprise everyone with near 50% aluminium content, but even the current 5 Series has not only an aluminium bonnet, but also an aluminium boot lid, and doors etc too.
Due to the costs of gasoline in Europe, they've had to jump on the small capacity turbo bandwagon quickly, and Lexus have been caught off guard here too.
I don't think the Sep 2015 facelifted 4.5GS will get new small capacity V6 turbos, but the 2.5L V6 overseas may be replaced by the 2.0 four cylinder turbo.
Back in the 1980's, Toyota used to have a range of 2.0L in-line six turbo, 2.5L in-line six turbo, and 3.0L in-line six turbos, so I'm dreaming that the 2017 5LS will introduce hi aluminium content with small capacity V8 twin turbos, and the 2019 5GS will follow suit, also with hi aluminium content, and a range of 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 V6 twin turbos, [otherwise they'll end up sharing 2.0 four cylinder turbos with Camries]...
At one stage, I was eyeing the GS450h for its great bottom end torque, superb linear torque curve, and superb mileage, however the extra 200 lbs and its effects on handling has always bothered me, and to a small extent, the boot; quickly getting the more compact and lightweight lithium battery into production will help the gasoline-electric hybrid's cause.
Now I suspect Toyota's hydrogen fuel cell powered electric technology will take over from gasoline-electric hybrid, as hydrogen becomes more readily available across the country?
However, for maximum in-line performance [albeit with handling compromised by the extra weight], gasoline-electric hybrids still come ahead of hyrdrogen powered fuel cell electric motors.
Presently, there just is no perfect engine; they are all compromised in one way or another.
So, I was about to get the current 4GS350, but now I'm sitting out for September 2015's facelifted 4.5GS350.
I think Benz has done really well to surprise everyone with near 50% aluminium content, but even the current 5 Series has not only an aluminium bonnet, but also an aluminium boot lid, and doors etc too.
Due to the costs of gasoline in Europe, they've had to jump on the small capacity turbo bandwagon quickly, and Lexus have been caught off guard here too.
I don't think the Sep 2015 facelifted 4.5GS will get new small capacity V6 turbos, but the 2.5L V6 overseas may be replaced by the 2.0 four cylinder turbo.
Back in the 1980's, Toyota used to have a range of 2.0L in-line six turbo, 2.5L in-line six turbo, and 3.0L in-line six turbos, so I'm dreaming that the 2017 5LS will introduce hi aluminium content with small capacity V8 twin turbos, and the 2019 5GS will follow suit, also with hi aluminium content, and a range of 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 V6 twin turbos, [otherwise they'll end up sharing 2.0 four cylinder turbos with Camries]...
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