GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020) Discussion about the 2013 and up GS models

Base GS versus Hyundai Genesis

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-14, 08:12 PM
  #31  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,606
Received 2,520 Likes on 1,818 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dseag2
Okay, your posts have made me want to go test drive one.
Honestly, everybody looking in this segment should go drive one.
Old 12-03-14, 11:21 PM
  #32  
dchar
Lexus Champion
 
dchar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,954
Received 223 Likes on 178 Posts
Default

Hyundai service isn't as nice though. A couple years ago, I went into the showroom once to check out the Genesis, and no one attended to me. They were all in their office on their computer. When I finally found a salesman and asked to test drive, they seemed very hesitant. I was thinking...seriously...I just pulled up in an Audi...come on... When I test drove the car, I asked the salesman questions about it and he didn't know anything about it. I also noticed all the salesmen (at this dealership) were Korean. They were much nicer to their Korean customers that were there. (I knew the customers were Korean because they spoke in Korean) Their dealerships aren't as nice either. Much less amenities and just feels cheap. You'll also have to deal with people driving their much cheaper models that cost 5x less.

Looks like a nice car, but I'm not sure I would spend that much for that car and have that kind of treatment. Hyundai should do what Toyota did with Lexus and make a luxury sub-brand. Besides the Korean brands, I don't know any successful automaker that makes cars of such a huge price jumps, from $15K econobox all the way up to $70K luxury sedan. I know a lot of people that would laugh at the idea of spending over $50K for a Hyundai.

The Genesis would probably not be the right car for me because it's too cushy and probably drives like a boat, like stated in many reviews. I like my cars to have a little sportiness and edginess, and the Genesis doesn't do that for me. I've also sat in the new one at the auto show, and it's no where as nice as sitting in the GS. Design on the interior is just bland and quality isn't really there. I'll stick with Lexus (or any other luxury brand) before I get a "luxury" Hyundai.

Last edited by dchar; 12-03-14 at 11:28 PM.
Old 12-04-14, 05:51 AM
  #33  
jtrue28
Lead Lap
 
jtrue28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: #BBNine
Posts: 3,636
Received 206 Likes on 140 Posts
Default

They went way overboard with the use of LED lights on that car. Maybe I'm not totally for certain what "ricey" means, but that is how I see that car. Trying to do TOO much (a la our friends from down south, Senor)...
Old 12-04-14, 09:06 AM
  #34  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,606
Received 2,520 Likes on 1,818 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dchar
Hyundai service isn't as nice though. A couple years ago, I went into the showroom once to check out the Genesis, and no one attended to me. They were all in their office on their computer. When I finally found a salesman and asked to test drive, they seemed very hesitant.
There's no comparison, there is no luxury experience at the dealer at all. But the question is, how often do you see the dealer? I don't use the dealer for routine maintenance now.

Originally Posted by jtrue28
They went way overboard with the use of LED lights on that car. Maybe I'm not totally for certain what "ricey" means, but that is how I see that car. Trying to do TOO much (a la our friends from down south, Senor)...
I don't see where you're coming from with this. First of all, the V6 Genesis doesn't even have LED DRLs. This is a V6 Genesis:





The V8 does have LED DRLs, but they are no different than DRLs on any number of luxury vehicles, BMW, Lexus, Audi...



There is a row of LED foglights in the bumper, but they can be turned off.
Old 12-04-14, 09:24 AM
  #35  
yardie876
Lexus Champion
 
yardie876's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SoFlo
Posts: 3,438
Received 87 Likes on 73 Posts
Default

I love the Genesis more and more every time I see it. Excited to see Hyundai release an R-Spec model.
Old 12-04-14, 10:45 AM
  #36  
sick21
Lexus Test Driver
 
sick21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NM
Posts: 1,081
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yardie876
I love the Genesis more and more every time I see it. Excited to see Hyundai release an R-Spec model.
I agree. I bet it will look good!!
Old 12-04-14, 11:13 AM
  #37  
jtrue28
Lead Lap
 
jtrue28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: #BBNine
Posts: 3,636
Received 206 Likes on 140 Posts
Default

#facepalm

Let's continue discussing a Kia, on the Lexus boards!!11!!11One!!1111))))1
Old 12-04-14, 02:10 PM
  #38  
islandbeef
Racer
 
islandbeef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SoCal 858
Posts: 1,679
Received 62 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

OFF TOPIC

Moderator, please move thread to Korea.
Old 12-04-14, 05:30 PM
  #39  
sick21
Lexus Test Driver
 
sick21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NM
Posts: 1,081
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by islandbeef
please move thread to Korea.
Lmao that's a good one
Old 12-04-14, 07:06 PM
  #40  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,606
Received 2,520 Likes on 1,818 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jtrue28
#facepalm

Let's continue discussing a Kia, on the Lexus boards!!11!!11One!!1111))))1
It's a thread comparing the GS to one of its competitors. You don't have to read it.
Old 12-05-14, 09:32 AM
  #41  
Chardo
Driver School Candidate
 
Chardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hyundai made a colossal mistake by not creating a separate Genesis division. Few luxury car buyers will give a serious look at a Hyundai. I can tell you that 25 years ago, there's no way most Mercedes and BMW shoppers would have given serious thought to a Toyota (or Nissan). They smartly marketed their gussied up cars as new brands at new dealerships. Back in 1990, the LS had been out for a year with some success and acclaim. Lexus ran a 2 year lease program with 81% residual. Payments were ridiculously low compared to the big Mercedes and BMW, especially since leasing was less common back then. Basically they dared those luxury owners to try a Lexus for 2 years. Many did, and told their friends. The rest is history.

I don't care how great the Genesis may be, they're just not going to get enough luxury buyers to ride around in a Hyundai.
Old 12-05-14, 02:46 PM
  #42  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,606
Received 2,520 Likes on 1,818 Posts
Default

I agree. The hang up for me is the branding. If it were a separate nameplate...I'd probably have one.

But, thats a huge investment for Hyundai.
Old 12-05-14, 03:01 PM
  #43  
1111GS
Moderator
 
1111GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: US
Posts: 2,876
Received 90 Likes on 78 Posts
Default

It doesn't quite make sense to have a sub brand when you only have a few models. Even if this were from a different car maker, I still prob won't get it. The tail doesn't look quite right for me. It reminded me something but I couldn't tell when I first saw it. Today I was behind it again and it popped up. I think it kind of looks like the tail of the Jetta but a little thinner IMO.
Old 12-05-14, 03:07 PM
  #44  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,606
Received 2,520 Likes on 1,818 Posts
Default

Toyota started Lexus with the LS and the ES...
Old 12-05-14, 03:15 PM
  #45  
dchar
Lexus Champion
 
dchar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,954
Received 223 Likes on 178 Posts
Default

The Genesis looks too much like an Elantra from the back, which costs about a third of the price. If Hyundai developed a luxury sub brand, they could actually make better looking cars like Lexus. They could start with the Genesis and Equus, then make a IS/3 series/A4/C class competitor and they would be ok for a bit. Probably easier said than done...especially in today's market.

There were talks a few years ago about making Kia the luxury Korean import, while keeping Hyundai where it is right now. I thought that would've been a horrible idea because Kia already has a bad reputation in most of the world. I was surprised when they released the K900. People are going to pay almost $70K for one?! Maybe Koreans that are FOB...like many Genesis owners.

Last edited by dchar; 12-05-14 at 03:20 PM.


Quick Reply: Base GS versus Hyundai Genesis



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:22 AM.