Base GS versus Hyundai Genesis
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#32
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Hyundai service isn't as nice though. A couple years ago, I went into the showroom once to check out the Genesis, and no one attended to me. They were all in their office on their computer. When I finally found a salesman and asked to test drive, they seemed very hesitant. I was thinking...seriously...I just pulled up in an Audi...come on... When I test drove the car, I asked the salesman questions about it and he didn't know anything about it. I also noticed all the salesmen (at this dealership) were Korean. They were much nicer to their Korean customers that were there. (I knew the customers were Korean because they spoke in Korean) Their dealerships aren't as nice either. Much less amenities and just feels cheap. You'll also have to deal with people driving their much cheaper models that cost 5x less.
Looks like a nice car, but I'm not sure I would spend that much for that car and have that kind of treatment. Hyundai should do what Toyota did with Lexus and make a luxury sub-brand. Besides the Korean brands, I don't know any successful automaker that makes cars of such a huge price jumps, from $15K econobox all the way up to $70K luxury sedan. I know a lot of people that would laugh at the idea of spending over $50K for a Hyundai.
The Genesis would probably not be the right car for me because it's too cushy and probably drives like a boat, like stated in many reviews. I like my cars to have a little sportiness and edginess, and the Genesis doesn't do that for me. I've also sat in the new one at the auto show, and it's no where as nice as sitting in the GS. Design on the interior is just bland and quality isn't really there. I'll stick with Lexus (or any other luxury brand) before I get a "luxury" Hyundai.
Looks like a nice car, but I'm not sure I would spend that much for that car and have that kind of treatment. Hyundai should do what Toyota did with Lexus and make a luxury sub-brand. Besides the Korean brands, I don't know any successful automaker that makes cars of such a huge price jumps, from $15K econobox all the way up to $70K luxury sedan. I know a lot of people that would laugh at the idea of spending over $50K for a Hyundai.
The Genesis would probably not be the right car for me because it's too cushy and probably drives like a boat, like stated in many reviews. I like my cars to have a little sportiness and edginess, and the Genesis doesn't do that for me. I've also sat in the new one at the auto show, and it's no where as nice as sitting in the GS. Design on the interior is just bland and quality isn't really there. I'll stick with Lexus (or any other luxury brand) before I get a "luxury" Hyundai.
Last edited by dchar; 12-03-14 at 11:28 PM.
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They went way overboard with the use of LED lights on that car. Maybe I'm not totally for certain what "ricey" means, but that is how I see that car. Trying to do TOO much (a la our friends from down south, Senor)...
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Hyundai service isn't as nice though. A couple years ago, I went into the showroom once to check out the Genesis, and no one attended to me. They were all in their office on their computer. When I finally found a salesman and asked to test drive, they seemed very hesitant.
Originally Posted by jtrue28
They went way overboard with the use of LED lights on that car. Maybe I'm not totally for certain what "ricey" means, but that is how I see that car. Trying to do TOO much (a la our friends from down south, Senor)...
The V8 does have LED DRLs, but they are no different than DRLs on any number of luxury vehicles, BMW, Lexus, Audi...
There is a row of LED foglights in the bumper, but they can be turned off.
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#facepalm
Let's continue discussing a Kia, on the Lexus boards!!11!!11One!!1111))))1
Let's continue discussing a Kia, on the Lexus boards!!11!!11One!!1111))))1
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Hyundai made a colossal mistake by not creating a separate Genesis division. Few luxury car buyers will give a serious look at a Hyundai. I can tell you that 25 years ago, there's no way most Mercedes and BMW shoppers would have given serious thought to a Toyota (or Nissan). They smartly marketed their gussied up cars as new brands at new dealerships. Back in 1990, the LS had been out for a year with some success and acclaim. Lexus ran a 2 year lease program with 81% residual. Payments were ridiculously low compared to the big Mercedes and BMW, especially since leasing was less common back then. Basically they dared those luxury owners to try a Lexus for 2 years. Many did, and told their friends. The rest is history.
I don't care how great the Genesis may be, they're just not going to get enough luxury buyers to ride around in a Hyundai.
I don't care how great the Genesis may be, they're just not going to get enough luxury buyers to ride around in a Hyundai.
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I agree. The hang up for me is the branding. If it were a separate nameplate...I'd probably have one.
But, thats a huge investment for Hyundai.
But, thats a huge investment for Hyundai.
#43
It doesn't quite make sense to have a sub brand when you only have a few models. Even if this were from a different car maker, I still prob won't get it. The tail doesn't look quite right for me. It reminded me something but I couldn't tell when I first saw it. Today I was behind it again and it popped up. I think it kind of looks like the tail of the Jetta but a little thinner IMO.
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Toyota started Lexus with the LS and the ES...
#45
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The Genesis looks too much like an Elantra from the back, which costs about a third of the price. If Hyundai developed a luxury sub brand, they could actually make better looking cars like Lexus. They could start with the Genesis and Equus, then make a IS/3 series/A4/C class competitor and they would be ok for a bit. Probably easier said than done...especially in today's market.
There were talks a few years ago about making Kia the luxury Korean import, while keeping Hyundai where it is right now. I thought that would've been a horrible idea because Kia already has a bad reputation in most of the world. I was surprised when they released the K900. People are going to pay almost $70K for one?! Maybe Koreans that are FOB...like many Genesis owners.
There were talks a few years ago about making Kia the luxury Korean import, while keeping Hyundai where it is right now. I thought that would've been a horrible idea because Kia already has a bad reputation in most of the world. I was surprised when they released the K900. People are going to pay almost $70K for one?! Maybe Koreans that are FOB...like many Genesis owners.
Last edited by dchar; 12-05-14 at 03:20 PM.