Back to Lexus from BMW...Any regrets?
#31
But really it does do 0-60 in 5.5 and is plenty fast. For my 40 something lifestyle it does just fine.
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#32
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I did miss the low end torque of the inline 6, even without the turbos of the 3.5l the bmw has great "now" acceleration. It's different with the GS, like most Japanese cars you have to get further up in the powerband.
But really it does do 0-60 in 5.5 and is plenty fast. For my 40 something lifestyle it does just fine.
But really it does do 0-60 in 5.5 and is plenty fast. For my 40 something lifestyle it does just fine.
I didn't drive the dealer's test car hard (but I'll be back for another drive).
Where's the 'sweet spot' on the Lexus V6? On BMWs (with twin turbo's), aside from the very slight turbo lag, the torque is just about full on by 2000RPM. Pretty much "now" in stop go driving even with the 8 speed auto.
Thanks.
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Hmmm...without "now" acceleration might bother me. There are times (negotiating stop and go traffic) where I appreciate quicker engine response. Does keeping the GS in Sport+ mode help? I would assume that would keep the engine higher in the rev band for each gear. Or do you have to floor it near red line to get to move briskly?
I didn't drive the dealer's test car hard (but I'll be back for another drive).
Where's the 'sweet spot' on the Lexus V6? On BMWs (with twin turbo's), aside from the very slight turbo lag, the torque is just about full on by 2000RPM. Pretty much "now" in stop go driving even with the 8 speed auto.
Thanks.
I didn't drive the dealer's test car hard (but I'll be back for another drive).
Where's the 'sweet spot' on the Lexus V6? On BMWs (with twin turbo's), aside from the very slight turbo lag, the torque is just about full on by 2000RPM. Pretty much "now" in stop go driving even with the 8 speed auto.
Thanks.
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#36
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That the Lexus 4G "has the agility and nimbleness" of the previous generation BMW (E 60 5 series, my ideal sport sedan) is all the better for me. I don't have any strong negative feelings about my 550i. It's still relatively new and I know I'll miss the power (i.e. anyone who's punched it in sport+ mode knows what I mean) but will gladly trade it for long term reliability. I don't even want to think about service on the 550i engine or trans once the warranty/free maintenance is up
THANKS
#37
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Performance Software?
Still, I wonder why nobody offers performance software for the Lexus.
#38
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Too bad no one has developed a software mod for it. BMW cars have several aftermarket tuners that have dyne proven results for numerous BMW turbo and NA engines. But, of course, it voids the warranty (except Dinan).
Still, I wonder why nobody offers performance software for the Lexus.
Still, I wonder why nobody offers performance software for the Lexus.
#39
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Hmmm...without "now" acceleration might bother me. There are times (negotiating stop and go traffic) where I appreciate quicker engine response. Does keeping the GS in Sport+ mode help? I would assume that would keep the engine higher in the rev band for each gear. Or do you have to floor it near red line to get to move briskly?
I didn't drive the dealer's test car hard (but I'll be back for another drive).
Where's the 'sweet spot' on the Lexus V6? On BMWs (with twin turbo's), aside from the very slight turbo lag, the torque is just about full on by 2000RPM. Pretty much "now" in stop go driving even with the 8 speed auto.
Thanks.
I didn't drive the dealer's test car hard (but I'll be back for another drive).
Where's the 'sweet spot' on the Lexus V6? On BMWs (with twin turbo's), aside from the very slight turbo lag, the torque is just about full on by 2000RPM. Pretty much "now" in stop go driving even with the 8 speed auto.
Thanks.
I like the GS F because it is a great comfortable cruiser that can become a wolf and does respond when pushed. No RFT, great reliability, better materials.
My dealer let me push the test car. I went back three times to make sure I liked it. 535 w sport was a pig in comparison. 335 I liked, but it was time in my life for a bigger car. And 335i was the same cost as GS.
#41
Lexus Test Driver
I keep mine in manual mode when in stop n go traffic, that gives me more instant power when I need to jackrabbit start.
#42
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No run flats = Happy
Sport, sport + do change the feel. Don't get me wrong, the GS is a fast and responsive car, just different from inline 6. Torque comes higher in the powerband, so the driving style is different. Just noting a difference between bmw and Lexus.
I like the GS F because it is a great comfortable cruiser that can become a wolf and does respond when pushed. No RFT, great reliability, better materials.
My dealer let me push the test car. I went back three times to make sure I liked it. 535 w sport was a pig in comparison. 335 I liked, but it was time in my life for a bigger car. And 335i was the same cost as GS.
I like the GS F because it is a great comfortable cruiser that can become a wolf and does respond when pushed. No RFT, great reliability, better materials.
My dealer let me push the test car. I went back three times to make sure I liked it. 535 w sport was a pig in comparison. 335 I liked, but it was time in my life for a bigger car. And 335i was the same cost as GS.
BTW...No run Flats? GREAT! Although I have Michelins on my current M Sport (the better brand of the run flats BMW offers) I still long for conventional performance tires. I just recently punctured my run flat. It allowed me to hobble home, be told it was not repairable, be also told "we don't stock your size", wait 3 days for a new tire, and then hand over $475 to replace
#43
Lexus Test Driver
Over a long period of ownership, nimble and balanced trumps sloppy and torquey. The torque is entertaining, but that effect wears off after you realize you can't have much fun with it.
#44
Too bad no one has developed a software mod for it. BMW cars have several aftermarket tuners that have dyne proven results for numerous BMW turbo and NA engines. But, of course, it voids the warranty (except Dinan).
Still, I wonder why nobody offers performance software for the Lexus.
Still, I wonder why nobody offers performance software for the Lexus.
Performance software on a normally aspirated engine that is already tuned to run on premium fuel just don't offer much of an improvement. Any gains would be extremely incremental. The biggest improvements would be in the shifting algorithms.
#45