Yep Brakes Needed!!!
#1
Yep Brakes Needed!!!
So I just hit 20K and I need brakes already, I recall having brakes longer on the 3GS. I don't brake hard I downshift more but wow I find that a little early. Seeing as most of the owners of the 4GS have had to replace there brakes early I guess this is normal. Only good thing out of it is my service guy warrantied the front rotors so I had to pay for just brake pads and labor.
#2
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So I just hit 20K and I need brakes already, I recall having brakes longer on the 3GS. I don't brake hard I downshift more but wow I find that a little early. Seeing as most of the owners of the 4GS have had to replace there brakes early I guess this is normal. Only good thing out of it is my service guy warrantied the front rotors so I had to pay for just brake pads and labor.
The rears looks like they would last 60-80k miles.
#3
Seems like 100% of the pad is ending up on the front wheels...gotta rinse them at least once a week. Looking forward to a set of ceramic pads soon.
#4
Anyone with an F Sport model that doesn't autocross or track your vehicle may be well served by switching to aftermarket ceramic pads.
If you autocross but don't track your F Sport then you should be mostly fine with aftermarket ceramic pads, although your times will be slightly worse.
But if you track your F Sport, then know that you can't get something for nothing. When compared to stock F Sport pads, ceramic pads are quieter, dust less, and will last longer. But they also have lower friction coefficients and, most importantly for track-day aficionados, have much lower temperature ranges than stock. Translation: your brakes will "go off" very quickly on ceramics as opposed to stock. And keep in mind that the stock F Sport brakes themselves, despite all their noise and dust, are still not quite up to the task of a full day at the track!
If you autocross but don't track your F Sport then you should be mostly fine with aftermarket ceramic pads, although your times will be slightly worse.
But if you track your F Sport, then know that you can't get something for nothing. When compared to stock F Sport pads, ceramic pads are quieter, dust less, and will last longer. But they also have lower friction coefficients and, most importantly for track-day aficionados, have much lower temperature ranges than stock. Translation: your brakes will "go off" very quickly on ceramics as opposed to stock. And keep in mind that the stock F Sport brakes themselves, despite all their noise and dust, are still not quite up to the task of a full day at the track!
#6
Lexus Test Driver
Amen to that, factory pads are just made of heavily compressed dust that turn back into dust and stick to the rims during any kind of braking.
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#10
Maybe a stupid question, but what are you basing on to conclude that the brakes need to be replaced. Is this a visual inspection, increased squeaks, or from a change in braking behavior when driving? Mine is about 22K and I have not noticed any change in normal braking but I haven't really inspected the wear of the front pads. I did notice a small squeak that just started a week ago.
#11
Lexus Test Driver
Usually that squeak is the wear indicator material heating up under braking. When it squeaks, it's time to replace. If you wait it out you'll get to the grinding and braking will be seriously compromised. I'd have it checked at least, they'll just throw it on a lift, pull a front wheel and measure the pad meat remaining. It's a simple and fairly fast process.
#12
Usually that squeak is the wear indicator material heating up under braking. When it squeaks, it's time to replace. If you wait it out you'll get to the grinding and braking will be seriously compromised. I'd have it checked at least, they'll just throw it on a lift, pull a front wheel and measure the pad meat remaining. It's a simple and fairly fast process.
#13
Lexus Test Driver
Does the premium/luxury model have this problem too? Brakes wearing out that quickly, or just the FSport model?
#14
I have a 2013 luxury and i'm at around 38,000 miles. Still on the OEM brakes. Live in Western PA and use the brakes quite a bit but i'm also on the interstates quite a bit.