Infamous3

Cars are similar in weight, except we dont know how much HP the 535 really has. BMW is known to lie and underrate the HP in their cars

jjscsix

I've seen a lot of road tests that shows the GS350 slightly faster in the 1/4 mile, slightly slower 0-60. I think the bottom lines is that flat out through the gears they are too close to even to give one the call over the other. But what the BMW has over the GS is torque - and lots of it over a very broad rpm range. So in normal driving it is going to be more responsive.

Kayman

Agreed. The twin turbo 6 cylinder was more umph than my current GS350 F Sport. The BMW is more of a driving car and the Lexus is more of a driver's car. Why? Far better driver comfort, infotainment and luxuries for the money.

islandbeef

Here's a recent comparo with specs/test results between four cars including the 535i.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html

The GS came out as the winner, of course.

LexFather

I feel the GS comes off the line slightly faster but the turbo really comes on with authority and I feel in a straight-line is the faster car. What masks that to me is the larger mass/weight of the 5 series compared to the smaller GS.

Both great engines but I gotta give the edge to BMW here!

Blackraven

535i has the edge on straights and probably off-the-line acceleration. On the other end though, the Lexus GS350 (especially in F-sport) will do better in fast turns and in a way handling (due to lower weight and features such as rear-wheel steering and stuff). And since there are more BMW 5 series cars than Lexus GS cars out there, then the Lexus GS350 F-sport is more unique...............so you stand out more hehe

Of course, the ultimate decision lies in the buyer. Test drive them both and see what you like

P.S.
On another note.

If you're getting a six-cylinder BMW 5 series car (F10), then why would you get a 535i?

GET A 535D instead.

The N57 diesel engine used in the 535d has more horsepower and torque than the N55 petrol engine used in the 535i.

In terms of Horsepower and Max Torque
535d > 535i

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Vague. In terms of what? 0-60, 1/4 mile, track.

Because there will be varying answers and both cars have strengths. Honestly who cares which is 'faster' unless you're out doing illegal street races. Both are luxury sport 6-cylinder sedans that are rewarding both to driver and driving experience.

pringle

Although it has a lot of torque for instant access to power, it actually has less HP than the N55 (255hp vs 300hp) and is slower in 0-60 (5.8 vs 5.4).

Also talking maintenance on diesel, I've never done it, but I am sure maintaining the urea tank is no big deal. Also watch out for diesel spills at the gas station. Once you get that on the bottom of your shoe, it's going to stink for days!

pringle

I'd be curious for them to redo this test. It is nearly 2 years old. And the 535 had a significant refresh for 2014.

SC300Es

Because a lot of people, based on what they have read in car magazines that over emphasize 0-60 times, think faster car makes a better car.

People lose their minds discussing/comparing .5 second differences in 0-60 times or whether that model has 16 more hp than this model, etc....

Ed

blacksun

I recently test drove both cars (AWD versions) and surprisingly they both felt very similar in terms of power IMO. Going into the test drives, I thought the BMW's torque advantage would be noticeable, but it wasn't.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Don't worry I understand. Just trying to give the OP a hard time. We have enough of these threads in CL we could compile and it'd be so large it'd need its own sub-forum

thank you 400lbs ie E60 to F10 (based on heavier 7-Series platform)

Blackraven

Oh I now know why....

Your 535d sold there in Stateside is detuned

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849498


The ones sold in USA/North America are detuned since the N57 engine that comes with it only has a Single Turbo. In Europe, the 535d sold there comes with the N57D30TOP version with the 313 horsepower...........probably through twin-turbo OR twin-scroll turbo.

I think your 535d in Stateside is detuned because your Diesel Fuel there has a lower Cetane rating if I'm not mistaken.....

sizquik

Until you reflash it. It's a shame the GS isn't tunable. You can even get a factory power kit from BMW that will raise the horsepower and torque.

Needsdecaf

No, it most certainly doesn't. The N55 in the 535 is rated at 300 HP and 300 ft lbs.

The N57 is rated at 255 HP and 413 ft lbs. That loss of 45 HP is noticeable.