Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > Lexus Model Forums > GS Models > GS - Fourth Generation
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

2014 Lexus GS

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-01-13, 09:17 AM   #1
djpeakSD
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
djpeakSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: California
Posts: 421
Default 2014 Lexus GS

Ok I know this is all speculation, and a lot of people have already expressed their opinions on what next years model would be like. Everyone pretty much bases their opinions on the past of Lexus which makes sense, e.g. how long they keep a model and approximately how long until they do a refresh etc.

So my question is what happened with the 2006 Lexus Gs 300? I wasn't around Lexus during that time so i really don't know the answer to this. It seems as if they did a whole redesign to the GS in 06 with the 3.0 and then the next year changed the motor completely because they found it was underpowered or something. Seems strange to have such a big change after just one year.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
__________________
Starfire Pearl 2013 Lexus GS 350 F Sport

Tanabe springs and Concavo Cw5's

djpeakSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-13, 09:57 AM   #2
rominl
exclusive matchup

Trader Score: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 78,989
Default

actually, although the US had gs300 in 06, during the same year, gs350 was already available in japan, so the engine was already available so to speak. there are a lot of speculations on why engine update after a year though and no one has a straight answer. one thing for sure, from 06 to 07 the gs was a pretty big step up. engine got change, electronics got improved (audio system for example), standard equipments got updated (all cars with bigger brakes), etc...
__________________
Yes, I drove it. The great feeling of boiling blood.
rominl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 03:59 AM   #3
Chris8152
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 152
Default

I don’t think Lexus will change much on the 2014 model, well not here in the UK anyway, they may add a slight change but nothing substantial, un like other countries we don’t get the option to custom order our cars, although most of the options come as standard, the only add on options I could have on my GS 450h f sport was a sunroof and upgraded ML sound system.
Chris8152 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 07:16 AM   #4
KILLERGS4
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
KILLERGS4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,169
Default

in 2-3 yrs with the refresh, they will re-do the grill so the chrome comes all the way down aka LS460 and chrome strip will be added below the doors like the 3GS. maybe they will update the tailight or headlight a bit. hopefully by this time they will have a V8
__________________

2014 Acura MDX | TECH | SH-AWD | Sport Bumpers F&R | White w/ Gray
2004 Lexus LS430| ULTRA Lux | Pioneer DVD | Alpine Monitors | White w/ Saddle
2006 Lexus GS430| M.L. | iSimple | 3M Film | Silver w/ Black
2006 Mercedes-Benz E350| AMG Sport | Black w/ Black
2004 BMW 545i| Premium w/ Navigation | Silver w/ Black
2002 BMW 540i| Premium w/ Navigation | Black w/ Black
1998 Lexus GS400|TRD 18" Machined Lip | Black w/ Tan
KILLERGS4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:02 PM   #5
VMM
Driver School Candidate
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 14
Default

I absolutely love this car and was ready to order and even had my loan preapproved with my credit union. I hesitated a little with the 6 speed versus 8 speed but thought that 8 would be annoying to paddle shift through. Another thread speculated that the cross traffic monitor would be available next year. For me, the elephant in the room is this new iihs small overlap test. I realize the GS hasn't been tested but the new Camry failed. I can see that the prior ES failed but that the new ES has yet to be tested. It would be reassuring to see that Lexus addressed this issue. I know these tests are controversial and that it has caused quite a spirited discussion in some of the other subforums on this site. Was wondering if anyone had heard anything? Despite the small overlap tests, the new Lexus models really seem safe. Audi and Mercedes fared very poorly on the small overlap test as well. I'm willing to wait till the 2014 model year if this is addressed for piece of mind. The car drove like a dream and was very comfortable. Am looking to get a fun sporty sedan for my wife and kids. She drives a Honda Odyssey currently. I switch back and forth between my 2005 M3 and a 2007 C4S. My two personal drivers are likely a lot less safe than the current GS. Decisions, decisions.
VMM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:31 PM   #6
SW13GS
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
SW13GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MD
Posts: 6,576
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLERGS4 View Post
hopefully by this time they will have a V8
Wouldn't get my hopes up about the V8. I don't think you'll ever see a V8 in the GS again.

In fact, I bet the next LS comes in a V6 model. BMW, MB, Audi, and Jaguar have already gone to base V8s in their large luxury sedans. V8s are a dying breed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by VMM View Post
For me, the elephant in the room is this new iihs small overlap test. I realize the GS hasn't been tested but the new Camry failed. I can see that the prior ES failed but that the new ES has yet to be tested. It would be reassuring to see that Lexus addressed this issue.
I'm not worried about the small overlap test. Most cars will fail that test, only because nobody has ever tested vehicles in that way before. Doesn't mean a car isn't safe, all you have to do is look at the injury statistics on a car to know if it is safe, ask your insurance agent.

Its more than a midyear thing to make a car perform well in a never before known test. 5 years or so cars will start performing better in that test. Unless you want to wait that long, I wouldn't worry about it.
__________________

2013 GS350 AWD Luxury Package, Liquid Platinum with Flaxen Interior
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, Maximum Steel with Indigo Blue/Brown interior
~Previous Lexus Vehicles~
2010 ES350, 2003 ES300 In the family: 2004 LS430, 1998 LS400

Last edited by SW13GS; 02-02-13 at 12:38 PM..
SW13GS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:37 PM   #7
ialexxx
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 123
Default

^^^ you are absolutely right, but I am still crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. I think whether or not Lexus will create new v8's in the future will really depend on the next generation of the isf. We will see until then I guess.
ialexxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:41 PM   #8
SW13GS
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
SW13GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MD
Posts: 6,576
Default

No, it has to do with fuel economy, thats the bottom line. There are limits to what they can do with a V8 to improve fuel economy, the consumer wants excellent fuel economy, and because of the new CAFE standards having V8s in the lineup is becoming harder and harder.

You can provide the power of a V8 in a 6 and the power of a 6 in a 4 when you employ things like superchargers, turbochargers, etc. With that comes better economy. You can see manufacturers going that way. The F line cars like the AMG or M cars are are a niche product, the question is whether or not you'll have a mainstream V8 GS or even LS in the future, and I doubt it.

If you had suggested a few years ago we'd see a 4cyl 5 series BMW, or 6Cyl 7 series and S Classes I'd have said you're crazy, but its a different world. LS350 next time, I bet ya.
__________________

2013 GS350 AWD Luxury Package, Liquid Platinum with Flaxen Interior
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, Maximum Steel with Indigo Blue/Brown interior
~Previous Lexus Vehicles~
2010 ES350, 2003 ES300 In the family: 2004 LS430, 1998 LS400
SW13GS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:49 PM   #9
KILLERGS4
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
KILLERGS4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SW10ES View Post
The F line cars like the AMG or M cars are are a niche product, the question is whether or not you'll have a mainstream V8 GS or even LS in the future, and I doubt it.
i agree with you for most part expect LS will always offer V8.

One more thing for re-fresh GS-F/F-sport...
Attached Images
 
__________________

2014 Acura MDX | TECH | SH-AWD | Sport Bumpers F&R | White w/ Gray
2004 Lexus LS430| ULTRA Lux | Pioneer DVD | Alpine Monitors | White w/ Saddle
2006 Lexus GS430| M.L. | iSimple | 3M Film | Silver w/ Black
2006 Mercedes-Benz E350| AMG Sport | Black w/ Black
2004 BMW 545i| Premium w/ Navigation | Silver w/ Black
2002 BMW 540i| Premium w/ Navigation | Black w/ Black
1998 Lexus GS400|TRD 18" Machined Lip | Black w/ Tan
KILLERGS4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 12:54 PM   #10
SW13GS
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
SW13GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MD
Posts: 6,576
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLERGS4 View Post
i agree with you for most part expect LS will always offer V8.
I would not be surprised if they kept the V8 as an option, but I would be very surprised if they had a V8 as standard. I think it will be a V6 standard, with a V8 option likely since everybody else in the segment has gone that way. Seriously...the LS is the only large luxury car left that has a standard V8, everything else starts with a 6 now, with MB having the 350 diesel and a 400 hybrid as another economy choice below the 550 V8.

However, I also would not be terribly surprised if they did away with the V8 entirely and kept the 6 and then the hybrid as the higher performance model, like with the GS. Again, a couple years ago I would have told myself I was crazy.

If they did offer a 6, I bet 90% of LS sales would be the 6.

I dunno about the LFA style gauges in the GS. They're cool, but in a way that would appeal to someone buying a $47k IS F Sport more than a $60k GS F Sport IMHO. I for one would not want the LFA style gauges.

For the GS you have to ask yourself, would someone driving a BMW 5 or a Mercedes E be impressed with those gauges? I think they're a little too boy racerish for the GS.
__________________

2013 GS350 AWD Luxury Package, Liquid Platinum with Flaxen Interior
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, Maximum Steel with Indigo Blue/Brown interior
~Previous Lexus Vehicles~
2010 ES350, 2003 ES300 In the family: 2004 LS430, 1998 LS400

Last edited by SW13GS; 02-02-13 at 01:01 PM..
SW13GS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 01:32 PM   #11
terrycs
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 768
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SW10ES View Post
No, it has to do with fuel economy, thats the bottom line. There are limits to what they can do with a V8 to improve fuel economy, the consumer wants excellent fuel economy, and because of the new CAFE standards having V8s in the lineup is becoming harder and harder.

You can provide the power of a V8 in a 6 and the power of a 6 in a 4 when you employ things like superchargers, turbochargers, etc. With that comes better economy. You can see manufacturers going that way. The F line cars like the AMG or M cars are are a niche product, the question is whether or not you'll have a mainstream V8 GS or even LS in the future, and I doubt it.

If you had suggested a few years ago we'd see a 4cyl 5 series BMW, or 6Cyl 7 series and S Classes I'd have said you're crazy, but its a different world. LS350 next time, I bet ya.
I don't think the V8 is dead at all. Check out how the Audi S6 and Cadillac CTS-V does it. If anything, I think Lexus might employ simlar technology to shut down extra cylinders when they are not needed to meet federal standards. Almost like the best of both worlds.
terrycs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 01:58 PM   #12
SW13GS
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
SW13GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MD
Posts: 6,576
Default

But those are high performance, low volume, specialty models. You don't see the A6 or the CTS available with a V8 outside of S or V trim. Also note that BMW has said the next M3 will not have a V8. No more V8 in the S5, signaling the way Audi is headed.

We're talking about comparable cars to the IS-F and GS-F (if one will ever exist)

I'm saying the day of the V8 in a mainstream model is coming to an end.
__________________

2013 GS350 AWD Luxury Package, Liquid Platinum with Flaxen Interior
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, Maximum Steel with Indigo Blue/Brown interior
~Previous Lexus Vehicles~
2010 ES350, 2003 ES300 In the family: 2004 LS430, 1998 LS400

Last edited by SW13GS; 02-02-13 at 02:21 PM..
SW13GS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 04:24 PM   #13
LexFather
Guest
Trader Score: ()
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If anything they need to offer the GS 300h and GS 250.. The Germans continue to offer smaller engines as well as larger ones and the small ones are the ones that sell.

They need a GS F pronto... I'd rather them put the efforts in that than a
GS 460
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 08:23 PM   #14
terrycs
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 768
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SW10ES View Post
But those are high performance, low volume, specialty models. You don't see the A6 or the CTS available with a V8 outside of S or V trim. Also note that BMW has said the next M3 will not have a V8. No more V8 in the S5, signaling the way Audi is headed.

We're talking about comparable cars to the IS-F and GS-F (if one will ever exist)

I'm saying the day of the V8 in a mainstream model is coming to an end.
Even the Audi 3.0 A6 is supercharged. I wish the GS had a higher power/weight ratio.
terrycs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 08:34 PM   #15
LexFather
Guest
Trader Score: ()
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terrycs View Post
Even the Audi 3.0 A6 is supercharged. I wish the GS had a higher power/weight ratio.
You know whats funny. Here the base A6 is a 2.0 I-4 with a CVT transmission. Oh and its FWD and starts around 42k
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-13, 08:34 PM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
2014, 300h, 350, club, crossover, forum, fourth, gs, lead, lexus, nx, order, pictures, released, speial, time, v8

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2007 Lexus Rx 400H - Buying advice - Help please Deeran Hybrid Technology 6 08-28-14 08:17 PM
Long term owner-ship feedback of a 2007 GS450h? Hameed Hybrid Technology 10 06-01-14 04:15 AM
Coming from an A4 S-Line, liking the 350 F-Sport, need opinions Belzebutt IS - Third Generation 7 10-04-13 09:20 PM
How reliable is this '04? Caydoc LS430 7 03-20-13 04:51 PM
How to be heard by Lexus? jmarias GS - Fourth Generation 2 10-10-12 08:53 PM

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:22 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info