spwolf

what about GS450h vs Mh? Handling in hybrid because of the extra weight? US mags really liked M35h, so it would be interesting to see comparo.

Itsuki_23

I don't know why the US press loves M35h. Its a nice straight line cruiser, with respectable electric-torque-punch for trouble-free overtaking. Exterior is ok, but nothing special, it has no presence and on the streets it dissapears into traffic. With interior Infiniti took a HUGE gamble – love it or hate it. To be honest I hate it – to me it looks like somekind of alien spaceship command center from a 50′s sci-fi show. And handling – it doesn’t like taking corners or braking into corners, or accelerating out of corners – plus traction- and stability control will get really confused when accelerating out of a corner – it completely cut off power for about 3-4 seconds while trying to figure out how much traction the rear wheels had, power was back on only after the car was completely pointed forward and when bodyroll faded. Also – interesting point about the quality – while sitting in drivers seat, try to lean on the headrest with the back of your head, then you can feel the two metal headrest tubes (that are keeping the headrest in the seat) pushing through the seat into your back. M35h is totally different car compared to the GS450h - like a quote from a cult movie - it ain't the same ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same sport

spwolf

cool :-).

what about GS450h handling vs GS250? Thank you!

Itsuki_23

They basically handle the same, hybrid is bit heavier and you can sense it in some situations, but only slightly.

spwolf

btw, did you drove <2011 GS450h, how do they compare from driving standpoint?

Itsuki_23

Yes. There is huge difference - old gen GSh was a good car when it came out, but the new one is huge leap forward. Its not evolution, its revolution

natnut

I really wish for someone to compare an F-sport with and without rear steering and tell us if rear steering makes a big difference in handling.

Mr. Burns

Here is a comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-opLo6F1OX8

spwolf

cool... thanks!

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

another great video from lexus! thanks for the link.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

agreed, great video to illustrate how it works

*Batman*

Very good video. I have been using an identical system on my BMW and I can vouch for the benefits Lexus claims. It has significant benefits at high speeds, and when maneuvering around town.

GSfsport

i like audi for the looks but 1) it costed 62k and it came with stuff i didnt care for 2) driving the car do not compare to the lexus and plus it was 5k cheaper for the f sport. which put a smile on my face.

Dema

Review looks really biased, but should we expect other in Lexus forum? Sure not.

Itsuki_23

Biased? You always have a chance to drive those cars yourself at your local dealership and make up your own mind Btw I think new GS is exeptionally strong product from Lexus, not all previous new models haven't been that competetive.