Just picked up a GS-F (ex-F10 M5 owner)
04-23-16, 10:00 PM
#16
Nice. Do you plan to switch the brake pads out like some of the RCF guys? Mine are straight banshees when you are gentle on them, but hard braking is not so much. I augmented my audio with a Kicker L7 so I can't hear them(brakes) most of the time. I had some issue with the audio since it sounded a lot different from my last GS 350 F and I tossed it up to the acoustic change in the car and the amp. The sound is crisp and thumping at select volumes but adjustments on the console did not do the trick for me.
Last edited by JayRo354; 04-23-16 at 10:07 PM.
04-23-16, 10:19 PM
#17
Driver
Thread Starter
Nice. Do you plan to switch the brake pads out like some of the RCF guys? Mine are straight banshees when you are gentle on them, but hard braking is not so much. I augmented my audio with a Kicker L7 so I can't hear them(brakes) most of the time. I had some issue with the audio since it sounded a lot different from my last GS 350 F and I tossed it up to the acoustic change in the car and the amp. The sound is crisp and thumping at select volumes but adjustments on the console did not do the trick for me.
04-23-16, 10:33 PM
#18
LOL. I can't go that high. I might lose my hearing in both ears. Surprisingly enough the acoustics is not heard that much outside of the car until you roll the windows down; then the rest of the world knows what tunes you are listening to. The gas cap and plate rattle is minimal if any from what I've found at moderate volumes. My brakes were silent initially. After the initial shedding of brake dust the banshees showed up. it was expected. it is in the fine print in the brochure. I also got both mats, although the all weather mat is actually the one for the GS 350. Have you had a chance to slalom with the TVD on yet? What are your impressions of it on your GSF?
04-24-16, 03:40 AM
#19
Racer
so youre saying basically the bmws are not daily drivers yet GSF is?
i see lots of people here driving bmw M's in winter here in philly. Should not be an issue if dry pavement.
What do you mean by too stiff? They are not body on frame suvs which ARE stiff, and frankly cars should have a frame for stiffness but it would add tons of weight.
as you can see, most of the gripes against the GSF are underpowered v8 and technology which has been mentioned numerous times. But also is the styling is bland compared to bmw and price is not right (too high). Yes its reliable b/c its a lexus and thats unfortunately its strongest point.
I would rather just get the GS-F sport if daily driver driving was what i was looking for.
Lexus could of did a better job seeing what audi and bmw have done. Lexus has lots of catching up to do here.
i see lots of people here driving bmw M's in winter here in philly. Should not be an issue if dry pavement.
What do you mean by too stiff? They are not body on frame suvs which ARE stiff, and frankly cars should have a frame for stiffness but it would add tons of weight.
as you can see, most of the gripes against the GSF are underpowered v8 and technology which has been mentioned numerous times. But also is the styling is bland compared to bmw and price is not right (too high). Yes its reliable b/c its a lexus and thats unfortunately its strongest point.
I would rather just get the GS-F sport if daily driver driving was what i was looking for.
Lexus could of did a better job seeing what audi and bmw have done. Lexus has lots of catching up to do here.
04-24-16, 06:12 AM
#20
Congrats and good write-up and thanks for taking the time.
I am going to purchase a GSF but am on the fence about purchasing the GSF at this moment and it is only because of price - meaning what happened with the pricing on the first year RCF's as year-end discounts were extremely aggressive. As a former M3 and 7 Series owner, I also fully agree with your assessment of what you get for the price and when looking at it that way, the price is fair but if waiting a few more months will gain an 8-12% discount, it is hard to no wait it out being I am in no rush. i.e. lease expiring.
Again, thanks for sharing and congrats on the new purchase.
I am going to purchase a GSF but am on the fence about purchasing the GSF at this moment and it is only because of price - meaning what happened with the pricing on the first year RCF's as year-end discounts were extremely aggressive. As a former M3 and 7 Series owner, I also fully agree with your assessment of what you get for the price and when looking at it that way, the price is fair but if waiting a few more months will gain an 8-12% discount, it is hard to no wait it out being I am in no rush. i.e. lease expiring.
Again, thanks for sharing and congrats on the new purchase.
04-24-16, 06:41 AM
#21
Driver
Thread Starter
so youre saying basically the bmws are not daily drivers yet GSF is?
i see lots of people here driving bmw M's in winter here in philly. Should not be an issue if dry pavement.
What do you mean by too stiff? They are not body on frame suvs which ARE stiff, and frankly cars should have a frame for stiffness but it would add tons of weight.
as you can see, most of the gripes against the GSF are underpowered v8 and technology which has been mentioned numerous times. But also is the styling is bland compared to bmw and price is not right (too high). Yes its reliable b/c its a lexus and thats unfortunately its strongest point.
I would rather just get the GS-F sport if daily driver driving was what i was looking for.
Lexus could of did a better job seeing what audi and bmw have done. Lexus has lots of catching up to do here.
i see lots of people here driving bmw M's in winter here in philly. Should not be an issue if dry pavement.
What do you mean by too stiff? They are not body on frame suvs which ARE stiff, and frankly cars should have a frame for stiffness but it would add tons of weight.
as you can see, most of the gripes against the GSF are underpowered v8 and technology which has been mentioned numerous times. But also is the styling is bland compared to bmw and price is not right (too high). Yes its reliable b/c its a lexus and thats unfortunately its strongest point.
I would rather just get the GS-F sport if daily driver driving was what i was looking for.
Lexus could of did a better job seeing what audi and bmw have done. Lexus has lots of catching up to do here.
Last edited by RayKnight; 04-24-16 at 06:45 AM.
04-24-16, 06:43 AM
#22
Driver
Thread Starter
Congrats and good write-up and thanks for taking the time.
I am going to purchase a GSF but am on the fence about purchasing the GSF at this moment and it is only because of price - meaning what happened with the pricing on the first year RCF's as year-end discounts were extremely aggressive. As a former M3 and 7 Series owner, I also fully agree with your assessment of what you get for the price and when looking at it that way, the price is fair but if waiting a few more months will gain an 8-12% discount, it is hard to no wait it out being I am in no rush. i.e. lease expiring.
Again, thanks for sharing and congrats on the new purchase.
I am going to purchase a GSF but am on the fence about purchasing the GSF at this moment and it is only because of price - meaning what happened with the pricing on the first year RCF's as year-end discounts were extremely aggressive. As a former M3 and 7 Series owner, I also fully agree with your assessment of what you get for the price and when looking at it that way, the price is fair but if waiting a few more months will gain an 8-12% discount, it is hard to no wait it out being I am in no rush. i.e. lease expiring.
Again, thanks for sharing and congrats on the new purchase.
04-24-16, 06:46 AM
#23
Driver
Thread Starter
LOL. I can't go that high. I might lose my hearing in both ears. Surprisingly enough the acoustics is not heard that much outside of the car until you roll the windows down; then the rest of the world knows what tunes you are listening to. The gas cap and plate rattle is minimal if any from what I've found at moderate volumes. My brakes were silent initially. After the initial shedding of brake dust the banshees showed up. it was expected. it is in the fine print in the brochure. I also got both mats, although the all weather mat is actually the one for the GS 350. Have you had a chance to slalom with the TVD on yet? What are your impressions of it on your GSF?
04-24-16, 09:25 AM
#24
Lexus Champion
Originally Posted by RayKnight
"Normal" BMWs are fine daily drivers. I loved my X5s. The M cars are a little more hairy! I love them dearly don't get me wrong but take a long trip in one with family and you may get what i mean a little better. The GSF does this job better. It feels more like the normal higher range BMWs in terms of comfort and ride quality but it has some great power on tap when you want it. Its just not always in your face like the Turbo M cars. Its hard to drive M cars politely in other words! Lol. They are raging monsters right off idle. They hate to be in standard driving mode. The GSF does not beg for sport+ mode all the time. Its just a more relaxed car to drive. As i said before, the GSF is comparable with the 550i M sport more so than the M5. And i think it beats it at a lower cost as well. 550i M sport with comparable options cost more than the GSF. As a "toy car" I would go BMW M no question. As a daily driver GSF wins for me even over the M5.
04-24-16, 11:22 AM
#25
Driver
Thread Starter
While I've never driven an M car, I've driven the last gen CTS-V and the same can be said. There's no middle ground. It's either you're in park or you're saying oh *****. I drove the RC-F and it was such a different experience. It felt familiar, welcoming. I felt like the CTS-V was trying to chew and spit me out lol. The Caddy is a hooligan but I don't think I would want to daily it.
04-26-16, 05:27 AM
#27
Neither really have any noticeable body roll. Both corner very well. The M3 is more lively but the GSF can sure hold its own. I have all options on the M3 except DCT. I have the adaptive suspension. Its great. But really, while these cars are similar on paper, they are VERY different. M3 is WILD, angry, evil, GSF is smooth, luxurious, and has an absolutely wicked sounding and very hard pulling V8 when you want it. The M3 is always angry and violent. Its like an axe murderer (M3) vs a professional hitman in a black suit (GSF)
The Sakhir orange is very slightly brighter, more saturated and slightly more orange but hard to tell even side by side. Both are a nice bright red.
The Sakhir orange is very slightly brighter, more saturated and slightly more orange but hard to tell even side by side. Both are a nice bright red.
04-26-16, 10:21 AM
#29
After driving it a few days, I can say the navigation, voice command, audio UI, HUD, seat adjustments and climate control are all light years behind BMW's systems in features, ease of use and speed of response. These things are bothering me. Passenger side heated seat is not working.
Otherwise - it drives awesome! Super comfortable and great to cruise in. Just all electronic functions are painfully slow and hard to use while driving.
Otherwise - it drives awesome! Super comfortable and great to cruise in. Just all electronic functions are painfully slow and hard to use while driving.
04-26-16, 12:48 PM
#30
Congrats on your new purchase!
I too come from owning the F80 M3, and had exactly the same impression as you did. M3 is a great car when going fast on a smooth surface but as a daily, was too bumpy and nervous on normal crappy roads. GS F is much better daily while retaining all the fun and refinement. Have fun with the GS F and what a combo!
I too come from owning the F80 M3, and had exactly the same impression as you did. M3 is a great car when going fast on a smooth surface but as a daily, was too bumpy and nervous on normal crappy roads. GS F is much better daily while retaining all the fun and refinement. Have fun with the GS F and what a combo!