chemchemgm

I think I saw it too. It was an old asian guy driving it right? I think it was a silver one

I8ABMR

Unfortunately the new motor trend review between the GSF AND CTSV aren't going help sales. I love it and would like to own one but they smoking something to ask for 84k for a car that is not even in the same universe as the CTSV in terms of power . It's going to be a blood bath . Balance is great but it will not Mask 180 hp deficiency , handling deficiency , and massive bragging rights deficiency . People who buy nearly 90k sedans want bragging rights . It pains me to say that Lexus really F'd up the GSF when getting it to compete .

Merzbow

The most recent one I can find from Motor Trend is the March 7 comparison:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/compa...vs-lexus-gs-f/

Which was against the V-Sport, not the V. Interesting quote: "Yeah, the GS F is quicker than the CTS V-Sport, but is it $14,000 quicker?" If Lexus just went ahead and formalized the near-$14k off people are now getting in lease deals, the GS-F would be winning every one of these comparos by a mile.

corradoMR2

Haven't seen one GS F yet on the road in Toronto though my dealer did sell two since it came out. Barely a better situation for the RC F - have seen three on the road besides mine in over a year it's been out!

rxonmymind

I've seen, Lamborghini, Ferrari, LFA, RCF, Uber Porsches, even an old (my personal favs-acura NSX, 3rd gen RX7) and(5) Cadillac CTS-V but no GSF. I commute 1 1/2 every day each way. And the RCF was maybe two in the last six months.

Afrosheen

Doesn't look good for the initial debut of the GSF. Press reception has been lukewarm, sales numbers are dismal, and worst of all, since sales are so poor, people aren't seeing them "on the street" so unless they are heavily marketing it, there is little to no awareness in this segment.

It needs a huge push from Lexus before the end of the year, we're talking fire sale, putting it just above the highest MSRP for the GS350, along with an aggressive marketing campaign. The only risk they run here is losing money on them (and if you ask any dealer, lot rot from models that don't move an inch in 4 months is losing money) and hurting residuals for existing owners, but there are so few owners so far, they still have a window of opportunity here.

I want to see this model succeed and to have a descendant with more of everything soon. I could see this and the RCF dying a slow death over the next 3 years if they don't make drastic changes, and that would be somewhat tragic.

mjn88

I think they messed up with the taillights. A lot of consumers i spoke with HATE the new GS taillights. Personally I am gonna wait till the price drops get the car then swap the tails.

RNM GS3

Lexus needs to Price it at 75k and then it will sell at high 60s to low 70s.

Afrosheen

Tracking the "price paid" thread, and you're 100% right. 70-75k is the sweet spot out the door right now.

designo

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Thank you for this valuable piece of information. I own a GS460 and that has been one of the most disturbing annoyances on this car. I fall asleep waiting for the car to downshift into the right gear. The fact that this has been rolled onto the GSF is very very disturbing to say the least.

Damnit.

Chocolate

The Motor Trend comparos are a joke. Weight is given to .1 second advantages and reliability, resale value, and other factors aren't even mentioned. I read several car magazines, purely for entertainment and general information, not for any weight on their ratings. It's funny to see MT pushing GM endlessly. Chevy Colorado as truck of the year two years in a row? Right.

95bat

They are very good at judging excellent driving cars. When the GS 350 F Sport came out it was their winner of a big comparison and was the only reason I went to test drive one... and they were right! That car was everything they said it was. I really miss my old '13 F Sport.

You're right, they don't consider resale value or reliability, but they're pretty accurate when it comes to driving dynamics and enjoyment. At least my taste aligns with theirs. When it comes to the real world, an educated buyer would consider resale and reliability and make a complete decision.

I8ABMR

Too much **** swinging in this category for the GSFs to move quickly . It's an amazing and capable car but it's just not competitive in its class .

djyoshi626

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I've seen 4 GSFs, all on the west side of Los Angeles. 2 in black (caviar), 1 in silver (liquid platinum), 1 in USB.

I8ABMR

They are not pushing a thing . Lexus just F'd up the GSF. Their twin turbo v8 is late like they always are so we're forced to jump in the ring with 173 missing horses . It's 2016 . We can't keep hiding behind bs like resale and reliability forever . If that's all we need we might as well buy toyotas . Lexus ****ed this up . At least the RCF had comparable power . Balance is great but you'll be way behind the others . The only people who will buy one are ISF owners and Lexus people who don't care that their car is a mile behind the rest . The comparisons with the merc and bummer will be a blood bath . It's doesn't even have 500 go for ****s sake and the torque is a joke .

Would I buy one ? HELL YEAH ! but I'm a huge fan boy . So frustrating to root for someone who always get beaten .