2016 GS-F drive. First Impressions.
12-12-15, 03:35 PM
#16
Lexus Test Driver
I love lexus, I think they build some great cars. But if you are buying a performance sedan and you're not gonna buy the gs-f if you can get this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS...m=371501804017
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS...m=371501804017
Don't get me wrong I would like for Lexus to succeed with this but it seems a little bit behind the techno/power plant curve. At this price point why would you NOT appreciate customizing your order to a T?
12-14-15, 08:33 AM
#17
Lexus Fanatic
Lexus of Riverside (CA) has (supposedly) sold the first 2016 GS-F available in the U.S....but I don't have any real confirmation on that....other than it's not listed in stock any more.
Kaizen Factor also has a reference to it.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2479844&type=3
Kaizen Factor also has a reference to it.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2479844&type=3
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-14-15 at 08:42 AM.
12-14-15, 10:19 AM
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obviously for highway cruising it's nice to have a softer setup than for slalom or the track.
12-14-15, 11:27 AM
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For performance maybe. I remembered the last gen R8 v10 Plus having non adjustable suspension vs the adaptive ones on the standard vehicle.
12-14-15, 12:16 PM
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hey at least we can argue the lfa doesn't have it too
12-14-15, 01:20 PM
#21
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i guess people know they're not buying a comfy highway cruiser when they get a gs-f or rc-f but then again porsche provides 2 settings on every 911:
of course their price points are higher and they've been at the game a very long time.
just looked up bmw m4 - it has 3 suspension modes:
ok what the heck, here's mercedes on the e63:
Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
PASM is fitted as standard in all 911 models for the first time. This electronic damping control system continuously adjusts the damping force on each wheel, based on current road conditions and driving style.
PASM has two modes, which can be selected using a separate button on the centre console: ‘Normal’, which is a blend of performance and comfort, and ‘Sport’ where the setup is much firmer.
The results are tangible: increased driving stability, improved comfort and enhanced performance.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/91...nagement-pasm/
PASM is fitted as standard in all 911 models for the first time. This electronic damping control system continuously adjusts the damping force on each wheel, based on current road conditions and driving style.
PASM has two modes, which can be selected using a separate button on the centre console: ‘Normal’, which is a blend of performance and comfort, and ‘Sport’ where the setup is much firmer.
The results are tangible: increased driving stability, improved comfort and enhanced performance.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/91...nagement-pasm/
just looked up bmw m4 - it has 3 suspension modes:
Adaptive M suspension.
The Adaptive M suspension's electronically controlled shock absorbers constantly adjust to road conditions as well as driving style within milliseconds, guaranteeing optimal road contact in every situation, the best possible traction and even more agile handling.
The suspension settings can be adjusted from comfortable to sporty-dynamic via the Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes.
Comfort mode ensures comfortable handling during everyday driving, and also increases safety in case sudden swerving is necessary. In Sport mode, ample comfort is maintained, but dampening is reduced and contact with the road is more direct – ideal for country roads and uneven racecourses. Sport+ mode offers minimal dampening and maximum driving dynamics on level roads and racetracks.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...nsion.html#t=l
The Adaptive M suspension's electronically controlled shock absorbers constantly adjust to road conditions as well as driving style within milliseconds, guaranteeing optimal road contact in every situation, the best possible traction and even more agile handling.
The suspension settings can be adjusted from comfortable to sporty-dynamic via the Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes.
Comfort mode ensures comfortable handling during everyday driving, and also increases safety in case sudden swerving is necessary. In Sport mode, ample comfort is maintained, but dampening is reduced and contact with the road is more direct – ideal for country roads and uneven racecourses. Sport+ mode offers minimal dampening and maximum driving dynamics on level roads and racetracks.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...nsion.html#t=l
AMG Adaptive Sport SuspensionAMG-developed front steel spring-struts and self-leveling rear air springs deliver highly responsive tracking and cornering with a balance of comfort and control, even as driving conditions vary. Advanced electronically controlled damping instantly adapts to reduce body roll, pitch and dive, while offering three modes at the touch of a button.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 12-14-15 at 01:28 PM.
12-14-15, 02:16 PM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
A good point. Most vehicles in this class would be expected to have at least the typical Comfort / Normal / Sport settings for the suspension. Some high-performance Subarus (in a lower price class than this) go a step further and include a Sport-Sharp setting.
12-14-15, 02:55 PM
#23
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BMW's M (comfort, sport, sport+) and Mercedes S-AMG (Comfort, Sport, Sport +, Race), however, tie in the suspension along with other transmission/throttle response changes.
12-14-15, 03:19 PM
#24
Lexus Fanatic
Eh...Subaru's SI-Drive has nothing to do with the suspension. Furthermore, it consists of 3 modes (Intelligent, Sport, Sport Sharp).
BMW's M (comfort, sport, sport+) and Mercedes S-AMG (Comfort, Sport, Sport +, Race), however, tie in the suspension along with other transmission/throttle response changes.
BMW's M (comfort, sport, sport+) and Mercedes S-AMG (Comfort, Sport, Sport +, Race), however, tie in the suspension along with other transmission/throttle response changes.
But many upmarket vehicles DO have variable damping/suspension settings. It is one of the things expected for the price....although my experience has been that sometimes the different settings are significant or perceptible between them...other times they are not. And some vehicles have suspensions so stiff that even the COMFORT setting can be firm....others give you a fairly compliant ride even in the SPORT setting.
12-14-15, 03:31 PM
#25
i guess people know they're not buying a comfy highway cruiser when they get a gs-f or rc-f but then again porsche provides 2 settings on every 911:
of course their price points are higher and they've been at the game a very long time.
just looked up bmw m4 - it has 3 suspension modes:
ok what the heck, here's mercedes on the e63:
of course their price points are higher and they've been at the game a very long time.
just looked up bmw m4 - it has 3 suspension modes:
ok what the heck, here's mercedes on the e63:
it's just more money
12-14-15, 03:31 PM
#26
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not trying to put down the gs-f which i expect to be a REALLY REALLY great drive. but it does seem like it should have that feature. not the same kind of vehicle but the similar hp jeep grand cherokee srt has suspension/throttle/etc. modes which definitely make the car softer/stiffer.
12-14-15, 03:59 PM
#27
not trying to put down the gs-f which i expect to be a REALLY REALLY great drive. but it does seem like it should have that feature. not the same kind of vehicle but the similar hp jeep grand cherokee srt has suspension/throttle/etc. modes which definitely make the car softer/stiffer.
12-16-15, 12:08 AM
#30
Pole Position
Strange how there are some recurrent posters who jump in on anything favorable to Lexus just to add their own subjective negative opinion : all without having driven the Lexus.
I especially like the post telling the OP (who has actually testdriven said GSF)that he should prefer a competitor's car when said poster hasn't even touched the GS-F and is just bench-racing internet numbers.
I especially like the post telling the OP (who has actually testdriven said GSF)that he should prefer a competitor's car when said poster hasn't even touched the GS-F and is just bench-racing internet numbers.