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CPO Rear Rotors & Brakes Shot after 4k miles...

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Old 07-19-16, 08:05 AM
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Default CPO Rear Rotors & Brakes Shot after 4k miles...

Just took my Certified '13 GS to my trusted local mechanic for an oil change.

He said that my rear brakes need to be replaced and the rear rotors have almost no metal left and are rusted/rotted through pretty badly. Car was bought with 43k miles and now has 47k miles.

I have driven 4300 miles in that time. I took it into Lexus Service to complain in August of last year on my mechanic's recommendation after buying the car...they said the brakes/rotors were "within spec" and that I was good to go. I left there a little disappointing with rusty rotors and worn brakes.

Anyone else had to change their brakes/rotors soon after purchasing their Certified GS? I feel like driving 4000 miles in about a year shouldn't require me to change them out on a CPO car...Thoughts?
Old 07-19-16, 09:15 AM
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How much do you trust your local guy cause Lexus dealer won't deny you for any service if the car is a CPO, it could be like my local guy always tells me something extra on the car to make few extra bucks.
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@Dallasguy1: My local guy is my uncle so I def. trust him...He is planning to show me/take pics of the rotors so I can show it to Lexus service if I wanna go down that rabbit hole of drama...
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Spec is 6mm on pads. Rotors should not have any heavy scoring or deep rust pits. Surface rust on rotors is acceptable and on steel rotors somewhat unavoidable.
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I bought my GS pseudo-CPO (long story short, I didn't "pay" for the certification apparently...) with 10k and had to replace the rotors before 15k. It hurt...
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I feel like with buying a certified car, I shouldn't have had to do brakes/rotor replacement in just over 1yr and 4000 miles of driving...

rld14: Do you feel it is reasonable that i would need to do this service at this point of ownership? Maybe I just got unlucky in that my brakes/rotors were barely in spec at the time of certification and now 4k mi. later, its time to address these...?

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I don't think that 4k after buying the car that this is normal.

That being said, I have had customers absolutely beat the crap out of cars and burn through pads in less than 5K, so from a dealer's standpoint its a judgement call.

Hell, on the track my M5 can suck up 2 sets of pads a day on a track like VIR.
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It's a wear and tear item.

Fix it.

Problem solved.
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@rld14: Agreed. Thanks for the insight.

@islandbeef: Agreed as well - having it done as we speak but certainly not by my Lexus dealer.

When I took it in for a check on my brakes/rotors last august, they said everything was good - maybe my expectations were too high in that I thought they would have at least said that you need brakes/rotors soon (although because I just bought the car from them, that would have raised a red flag).
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@AJLex, good call using your indy mech instead of the dealership. Save yourself $$$
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Installed ATE PremiumOne Rotors with Akebono rear brakes. Also did an oil change/oil filter/air filter/cabin filter and a rear differential fluid drain/change. Total cost was $435 with labor with my local mechanic.

Drove the car for about 5miles and everything feels great.

Emailed my dealership and they basically said nothing useful in their response - so the bottom line is they won't be getting my business for maintenance going forward.

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Who painted and branded your calipers? The F sports with big factory brakes don't even get paint.
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Originally Posted by Afrosheen
Who painted and branded your calipers? The F sports with big factory brakes don't even get paint.
u can paint the caliper urself and the logo u can buy on ebay
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Originally Posted by richard203
u can paint the caliper urself and the logo u can buy on ebay
I'm aware of that, but I was asking the op. If he bought it like this it's original owner might have been a tinkerer that drove the car really hard. Wearing out rear rotors tells me one thing on a RWD car with brakes biased 70/30 front to rear. Lots and lots of traction control kicking in to keep the rear wheels in check prematurely wore them out.
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I just purchased a CPO car and was told that the pads needed to have 60% material remaining or they would be replaced as part of the CPO process. I wonder if the rear pads were checked by your Dealer at all (prior to sale), as 4k miles is pretty quick!


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