Bloomberg doesn't like the 2016 GS350 but tolerates the FSport
06-21-16, 03:43 PM
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Did anyone else have a collection of Bloomberg magazines as a car fan kid growing up? Yeah me either. I could careless what the rags say especially the twonk writing for bloomberg. Yes the infotainment isn't a click wheel deely like the others, but it gets the job done. 5.7 Secs to 60 MPH is nothing to sneeze at. Since when did our mundane appliances have to rip 60 mph in under 5 secs to be considered fast? To me the F-sport was the best all around performer for my tastes. Yes others may pull more G's on the skid pad or go faster in the 1/4 mile in the end the Lexus is the better value.
06-21-16, 04:11 PM
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5.7 seconds is respectable, but the car acts like it does not want to be subjected to that. You either have to drive in Sport plus, and/or constantly be flooring the accelerator. I had. 2010 GS that I was always impressed with how responsive and eager it was. The 2014 was just the opposite.
06-21-16, 04:19 PM
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5.7 seconds is respectable, but the car acts like it does not want to be subjected to that. You either have to drive in Sport plus, and/or constantly be flooring the accelerator. I had. 2010 GS that I was always impressed with how responsive and eager it was. The 2014 was just the opposite.
06-21-16, 04:27 PM
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I've found the transmission gearing in most cars today is lethargic, I blame fuel economy tuning.
The article is absurd. Somebody thinks they're Jeremy Clarkson...but unfortunately they write for the auto section of Bloomberg. Next I'll be getting my gardening advice from Yacht and Powerboat Monthly lol
If you look at the links below from the same author, the titles say it all:
The Lexus 450h Is the Mom Jeans of Luxury Crossovers
Review: The Lexus NX is a Personality-Free Luxury Crossover
The 2016 Lexus RX 350 F Sport Has Had too Much Plastic Surgery
Clearly her bias shows. Clarkson has a bias too obviously, but he's legitimate and actually amusing lol
The article is absurd. Somebody thinks they're Jeremy Clarkson...but unfortunately they write for the auto section of Bloomberg. Next I'll be getting my gardening advice from Yacht and Powerboat Monthly lol
If you look at the links below from the same author, the titles say it all:
The Lexus 450h Is the Mom Jeans of Luxury Crossovers
Review: The Lexus NX is a Personality-Free Luxury Crossover
The 2016 Lexus RX 350 F Sport Has Had too Much Plastic Surgery
Clearly her bias shows. Clarkson has a bias too obviously, but he's legitimate and actually amusing lol
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06-21-16, 07:52 PM
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The good news is that the market has a variety of customers and they have varying values and expectations from their products. German cars have a long history of being "driver's cars" and it shows in both the technical data and driving experience. Simply put, Lexus targets a different market segment. While Audi has made strides in reliability, BMW has a ways to go. And 4 years later, Audi still hasn't fixed (or seemingly even improved at all!) their offset frontal collision performance. So watch out when racing from light-to-light on the streets of NYC.
I would not defend my GS 350 in raw performance or technical metrics against those cars. What I will say is that it is comfortable, the ergonomics work for me, it drives as well as I need, it's as fast as I need, and it has a track record (hoping mine holds up) of reliability.
Quite frankly, I'm glad I no longer own a BMW because almost every component that doesn't make a journalist's spec sheet gave me issues and cost me a lot of money to repair, sometimes repeatedly.
I would not defend my GS 350 in raw performance or technical metrics against those cars. What I will say is that it is comfortable, the ergonomics work for me, it drives as well as I need, it's as fast as I need, and it has a track record (hoping mine holds up) of reliability.
Quite frankly, I'm glad I no longer own a BMW because almost every component that doesn't make a journalist's spec sheet gave me issues and cost me a lot of money to repair, sometimes repeatedly.
06-22-16, 07:14 AM
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I've found the transmission gearing in most cars today is lethargic, I blame fuel economy tuning.
The article is absurd. Somebody thinks they're Jeremy Clarkson...but unfortunately they write for the auto section of Bloomberg. Next I'll be getting my gardening advice from Yacht and Powerboat Monthly lol
If you look at the links below from the same author, the titles say it all:
The Lexus 450h Is the Mom Jeans of Luxury Crossovers
Review: The Lexus NX is a Personality-Free Luxury Crossover
The 2016 Lexus RX 350 F Sport Has Had too Much Plastic Surgery
Clearly her bias shows. Clarkson has a bias too obviously, but he's legitimate and actually amusing lol
The article is absurd. Somebody thinks they're Jeremy Clarkson...but unfortunately they write for the auto section of Bloomberg. Next I'll be getting my gardening advice from Yacht and Powerboat Monthly lol
If you look at the links below from the same author, the titles say it all:
The Lexus 450h Is the Mom Jeans of Luxury Crossovers
Review: The Lexus NX is a Personality-Free Luxury Crossover
The 2016 Lexus RX 350 F Sport Has Had too Much Plastic Surgery
Clearly her bias shows. Clarkson has a bias too obviously, but he's legitimate and actually amusing lol
06-22-16, 07:19 AM
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Nothing new. Reviewers seem to always be on the deep end or shallow end. Very few can give honest reviews. They either fall in love with a car or nit pick something really stupid and make it seem the car is the biggest POS on the planet. i.e. The GS350 only has a 6 speed transmission, it is undriveable! LOL
Check out review by CNet guy. LOL
Check out review by CNet guy. LOL
06-22-16, 07:37 AM
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So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-c...luxury-sedans/
Lieberman: “Great steering. Balanced, communicative, properly weighted. Just a joy to drive. Neutral without being leaden. Very Mazda-like, in fact. And I say all this having driven the car in Sport instead of Sport Plus.” Evans: “This is a Lexus? Really impressed with the handling and confidence in the car. Holds the road much better than expected. Can really fling it at the corners.” Martinez: “The Sport Plus algorithm allows for a proper testing of its grip thresholds, and on the loop’s tight technical zigzags, it was just right. Only once did any traction control light flash, and, unlike the Infiniti, shifts were clean, fast, and when you wanted them. Also unlike the Infiniti: The Lexus felt way smaller than it was. Like, really smaller.”
In driving feel, the Lexus does exactly what you want it to do — it shrinks around you. Yet, when it comes to pampering, it opens up, inviting you into the richest, most aesthetically pleasing cabin in its class. Lieberman: “Gorgeous interior. Love the metalwork, especially the volume and tune *****. Feels like they’re off my old Marantz Quadradial. Extremely solid and finely made.” Martinez: “From the classy analog clock to the soft leather lining the seats, center console, and doors to the near-perfect sport steering wheel and massive and clear multimedia display, this Lexus oozes modern sophistication.” Evans: “This is my favorite Lexus interior ever. So refined and stylish. Not boring and not overdone.”
Here are some numbers to consider: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds; the quarter mile in 14.0 at 101.0 mph; lateral acceleration of 0.94 g; figure eight of 25.4 seconds at 0.71 g; EPA fuel economy of 19/28; and observed mpg of 18.9. Not first, not last; just right in the sweet spot. Only 60-0 braking, at 110 feet, was behind the curve, but only by 4 feet versus the Audi and BMW. Then there’s price. At $58,800 as tested, the GS F Sport, again, sits comfortably in the sweet spot.
Here are some numbers to consider: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds; the quarter mile in 14.0 at 101.0 mph; lateral acceleration of 0.94 g; figure eight of 25.4 seconds at 0.71 g; EPA fuel economy of 19/28; and observed mpg of 18.9. Not first, not last; just right in the sweet spot. Only 60-0 braking, at 110 feet, was behind the curve, but only by 4 feet versus the Audi and BMW. Then there’s price. At $58,800 as tested, the GS F Sport, again, sits comfortably in the sweet spot.
06-22-16, 02:37 PM
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Correct indeed.
So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-c...luxury-sedans/
So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-c...luxury-sedans/
This makes me feel good about my purchase and I completely agree! The transmission on my G37 left a lot to be desired. Although the GS isn't the fastest car, I think it more thank makes up for it with exterior/interior aesthetics, luxury, and comfort. Also I love the peace of mind of quality and reliability that the brand brings.
I do wish there was more aftermarket support though. From what I have found, we are only left with basic bolt-ons. To my knowledge that doesn't even include a high-flow cat.
06-23-16, 09:31 AM
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Correct indeed.
So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-c...luxury-sedans/
So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/six-c...luxury-sedans/
06-23-16, 09:45 AM
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So speaking of positive articles, this one is still one of my favorites (though it's now becoming quite dated), as I find it does a great job of putting into words how I feel about my GS.
06-23-16, 10:10 AM
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5.7 seconds is respectable, but the car acts like it does not want to be subjected to that. You either have to drive in Sport plus, and/or constantly be flooring the accelerator. I had. 2010 GS that I was always impressed with how responsive and eager it was. The 2014 was just the opposite.
The last GS350 did 0-60 in 5.2-5.3 seconds, why is the new one half a second slower in most tests with more gears and more power. The last IS350 could do 0-60 in 4.8 seconds in some tests(I think 4.6 in one) and low 5 second range in most tests where the current one is more around 5.5 seconds from most tests, I have not seen it dip below 5 seconds.
06-23-16, 10:56 AM
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8 speed vs 6 speed was a bad idea. You don't need that many gears. You'll be in 4th gear before you reach 60mph. Stupid.
06-24-16, 04:17 AM
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I had a 2015 Audi A7 and now I have a 2016 - both identically equipped. The 2016 is rated two MPG higher than the 2015 and guess what? The transmission is more lethargic unless in sport mode, I can feel it shift into second gear sooner, and it has more hesitation off idle. Easy to see part of where the two MPG came from.
BTW, we traded our 2014 GS for a 2016 GX460. It has a six speed auto and it too feels lazy. But I will say this, like our GS, every time I drive the GX (my wife's driver) I immediately am impressed at what polished manners it has. Everything about it feels like quality and refinement.
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