Originally Posted by fuddyduddy

It seems strange we are discussing the merits of HID vs. LED and being so polar about it. These two are much more similar as compared to halogen.

Originally Posted by namzug

I got my 2015 Fsport RWD fully loaded except HUD in DEC15 for $42,668 with window sticker of $57,89(less tax). Car was built in June15. It took over a week to negotiate all over SOCAL but I could not believe the dealership in San Diego (my hometown) beat everyone at the last minute.
I first started with the brokers in L.A., then dealerships. Once I got their best I blasted emails to the dealerships in San Diego. A couple of days later the flood gates opened with emails. Most replies stated that although there prices were higher their customer support was even higher. That was in November, then one of the more honest brokers told me to wait until 7 DEC for new specials. I'm glad I did because during the first week of DEC the bidding war started. Finally around 6 DEC I was contacted by some internet salesperson from Escondido Lexus (San DIego) reported that they will beat any deal if I come down. First of all I never come in without a solid quote in writing. I said no until I got lowest price confirmation. The girl then directed me to the GM and he asked for lowest quote. Luckily the broker in L.A. sent me sticker and his price(but left out down payment). I email to GM and he said he could beat it but I would have to come in the next day. I did, and while I was talking to GM to lock down price I was talking to a broker. I told the GM that I was talking with broker and who ever gives me best price I would get it on the spot. Broker offered a bit over $42 and the GM said he would take $500 off his deal. That was all it took. I gave him my personal information and told him to do the paper work and to call me when I need to sign. I also told him I was NOT interested in anything finance had to offer (extended crap with a 500% mark up (i..e. wheel, security, warranty, Teflon packages etc.). I got a call about an hour later and 20 minutes after that I drove my new Fsport off the lot. While driving home the broker called and offered me even less then I asked if his deal has ML and all the other stuff. He said no. Last week I was able to get my buddy into a brand new RX350 for a great deal too using similar tactics. However, San Diego was not even close to L.A.. He ended getting his RX from Beverly Hills (MSRP $53K and he got it for $49,998 out the door - which included tax, License and fees).
Working with broker right now getting a new Honda CRV for my friend in Church. Once I get quote I will shoot it out to the dealerships within a 100 miles. Since the long weekend is coming up I'm curious the deal she will get. Got a similar deal for my 2012 MBZ E350 sport. The list was $54 but I got it for $42K. Liked the car but hated the $295 oil changes and $400 check-ups.

Originally Posted by spoogenet

'16 doesn't have HID anymore, only LED. To me, that is a major problem with '16.

Originally Posted by AL13NV8D3R

Although I am not one of the unlucky ones that see led flicker. I do feel that most LED head lights in the market are very weak and dim on many last generation cars from different manufactuers. Audi comes to mind. I test drove a Audi A6 previous generation with LEDs and it was dimmer at night than a Audi with HiDs. So im concerned about Lexus LEDs being dim too. Well the only thing to do to be sure is to test drive one at night. Anyone here owned both models of the GS 350 one with HID and the other with LEDs can chine in and tell us which is brighter? I dont want to waste my lexus car dealers time by test driving a car i wont buy.