Thoughts on new tires?
#16
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Wish there were someone that had tried both the P7s and the DWS. If the DWS06 really does give a noticeable difference in performance compared to the P7s.. then I wouldn't mind that, but at the same time if the ride quality difference is even bigger than I'd probably just go with the P7s
Last edited by Prinny; 05-17-16 at 04:16 PM.
#17
Put a set of P7's on the front and set of DWS06 on the back. Rotate after a while. Then let me know which is better so it's easier for me when my time comes lol, just playing.
Haha, jk. I browsed around online and couldn't find someone that has owned both since they are vastly different tires in two different classes (grand touring tire vs ultra high performance tire).
I would love to go with the DWS06 if I could confirm they wear almost the same as the P7+ (even slightly more is fine by me) and how the road noise & comfort compares between the two tires on the 4GS.
I've heard that if you buy them from DiscountTire and you don't like the tires, you can exchange them for different kind. Not sure how many miles they allow you to "test" them though.
G'luck man. Either way you go, I would love if you could compare the new set to the OEM Michelin tires after you put on some miles.
~ Im2bz2p345
Haha, jk. I browsed around online and couldn't find someone that has owned both since they are vastly different tires in two different classes (grand touring tire vs ultra high performance tire).
I would love to go with the DWS06 if I could confirm they wear almost the same as the P7+ (even slightly more is fine by me) and how the road noise & comfort compares between the two tires on the 4GS.
I've heard that if you buy them from DiscountTire and you don't like the tires, you can exchange them for different kind. Not sure how many miles they allow you to "test" them though.
G'luck man. Either way you go, I would love if you could compare the new set to the OEM Michelin tires after you put on some miles.
~ Im2bz2p345
#18
There is a 30 day trial period, but to my knowledge they can only be exchanged for a different tire from the same brand.
#19
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Put a set of P7's on the front and set of DWS06 on the back. Rotate after a while. Then let me know which is better so it's easier for me when my time comes lol, just playing.
Haha, jk. I browsed around online and couldn't find someone that has owned both since they are vastly different tires in two different classes (grand touring tire vs ultra high performance tire).
I would love to go with the DWS06 if I could confirm they wear almost the same as the P7+ (even slightly more is fine by me) and how the road noise & comfort compares between the two tires on the 4GS.
I've heard that if you buy them from DiscountTire and you don't like the tires, you can exchange them for different kind. Not sure how many miles they allow you to "test" them though.
G'luck man. Either way you go, I would love if you could compare the new set to the OEM Michelin tires after you put on some miles.
~ Im2bz2p345
Haha, jk. I browsed around online and couldn't find someone that has owned both since they are vastly different tires in two different classes (grand touring tire vs ultra high performance tire).
I would love to go with the DWS06 if I could confirm they wear almost the same as the P7+ (even slightly more is fine by me) and how the road noise & comfort compares between the two tires on the 4GS.
I've heard that if you buy them from DiscountTire and you don't like the tires, you can exchange them for different kind. Not sure how many miles they allow you to "test" them though.
G'luck man. Either way you go, I would love if you could compare the new set to the OEM Michelin tires after you put on some miles.
~ Im2bz2p345
haha if only it were that easy, but I may just have to play it safe and go with the P7s :/. The Michelin tires seem pretty comfortable... they're kind of on the old side, but I don't really have anything else to compare to. That's main thing that's keeping me away from the DWS06.. if the road noise and comfort is comparable to what I have now then I'd go with the them.
I'll let you know or make a new thread regardless of which I choose after I put some miles on whatever I end up picking lol.
#21
I need a new set also. Subscribed. I live in chicago area, so snow and sleet traction are at the top of my list.
Question:
What other sizes can AWD Fsport run safely? I recall in another thread, going to another size dropped prices vs OEM specs
Question:
What other sizes can AWD Fsport run safely? I recall in another thread, going to another size dropped prices vs OEM specs
Last edited by popping; 05-18-16 at 08:03 AM. Reason: add
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#24
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Seems like the DWS06 is a pretty significant upgrade from the original DWS according to the reviews and what not. I have until this weekend to make a decision, but we'll see hmm
#25
What are the largest tires you can fit on stock wheels? Anyone try 245's or 255's?
#26
Update on that, they do have the 235/45/18 but not the sizes for the base or F-sport.
#27
I also want to know what i can run - the stockers on the base AWD are 235/45/18 (790 rev's / mile) . The conti's come in 245/45/18 which are .4" taller and 778 rev's / mile , and the 255/40/18 which are .3" shorter than stock 799 rev's / mile. They also have a 265/40/18 which is stock f sport RWD width and it is exactly 790 rev's / mile.
What are the largest tires you can fit on stock wheels? Anyone try 245's or 255's?
What are the largest tires you can fit on stock wheels? Anyone try 245's or 255's?
#28
Think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the DWS06's. Discount tire direct is having a couple rebate offers
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...s.do?pgid=2138
$210 each = $840
get $75 visa gift card
get $60 rebate if you use their credit card
0% for 6 months w/ their credit card
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...s.do?pgid=2138
$210 each = $840
get $75 visa gift card
get $60 rebate if you use their credit card
0% for 6 months w/ their credit card
#29
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Okay, so I ended up going with 4 of the P7s plus instead just two for the fronts. Figured that I mind as well since I have three tires that I need replacing. The last one I just stuck in my garage. Not sure what I want to do with it yet. It's not that old and has lots of tread left. Like close to near new.. which is a shame -__-.
I asked the guy at the tire shop the same question that I posted on here in regards to the DWS06's and the P7 plus. He started off by saying that OEM tires are completely different tires than their same model counterpart that we purchase after we go through the first set of tires that come with the car. He also mentioned that there's usually some sort labeling on the sidewall of the OEM tires that differentiate them and that OEM tires are meant to be really comfortable or excel at what they're supposed to do for the first 10k miles or so (depends on the tire) and then after those initial miles they rapidly decline and lose their supposed performance until the user must change their tires.
The reasoning behind that was so that customers will be more likely to buy the car initially and later they may want for the exact same tires as before, but to get the exact same OEM tires that came from the dealer, they would have to pay a premium which would be more than the cost of the same model tire that "isn't OEM" I'm not sure if I did a good job explaining that or how legitimate his claim is though.
Anyways.. after all that he said that since that's how the OEM tires are and due to me running on OEM tires.. regardless of which tire I pick.. (DWS06s or P7 plus's) there would be a world of difference since new tires and all. He said that I won't really notice that much of a difference in performance unless I drive my car pretty hard consistently. The DWS06's are great in snow and the P7s don't compare, but there is no snow in SoCal (besides in the mountains). He has had experience with both tires and there is a noticeable difference in comfort and performance in both, but the difference in comfort outweighs the difference in performance supposedly. I also mentioned that I spend a lot of time commuting for work.. (2 hours round trip a day or so) after I mentioned that he said that the choice is clear that I should go with the P7s.
I've driven a little bit in them so far and holy **** they're comfortable as all hell.. like riding on clouds lol. Night and day compared with how the OEM Michellin tires ran. I did notice the P7s don't take corners and turns as well as the older tires though. There's a noticeable difference in that. I had to drive around my older car for errands today and I'm running some fairly new Hankook V12s on that.. There's a huge noticeable difference in performance coming from the P7s to summer tires, but feeling every bump in the road isn't worth the trouble. Figured that I'd cover all the bases lol.
I asked the guy at the tire shop the same question that I posted on here in regards to the DWS06's and the P7 plus. He started off by saying that OEM tires are completely different tires than their same model counterpart that we purchase after we go through the first set of tires that come with the car. He also mentioned that there's usually some sort labeling on the sidewall of the OEM tires that differentiate them and that OEM tires are meant to be really comfortable or excel at what they're supposed to do for the first 10k miles or so (depends on the tire) and then after those initial miles they rapidly decline and lose their supposed performance until the user must change their tires.
The reasoning behind that was so that customers will be more likely to buy the car initially and later they may want for the exact same tires as before, but to get the exact same OEM tires that came from the dealer, they would have to pay a premium which would be more than the cost of the same model tire that "isn't OEM" I'm not sure if I did a good job explaining that or how legitimate his claim is though.
Anyways.. after all that he said that since that's how the OEM tires are and due to me running on OEM tires.. regardless of which tire I pick.. (DWS06s or P7 plus's) there would be a world of difference since new tires and all. He said that I won't really notice that much of a difference in performance unless I drive my car pretty hard consistently. The DWS06's are great in snow and the P7s don't compare, but there is no snow in SoCal (besides in the mountains). He has had experience with both tires and there is a noticeable difference in comfort and performance in both, but the difference in comfort outweighs the difference in performance supposedly. I also mentioned that I spend a lot of time commuting for work.. (2 hours round trip a day or so) after I mentioned that he said that the choice is clear that I should go with the P7s.
I've driven a little bit in them so far and holy **** they're comfortable as all hell.. like riding on clouds lol. Night and day compared with how the OEM Michellin tires ran. I did notice the P7s don't take corners and turns as well as the older tires though. There's a noticeable difference in that. I had to drive around my older car for errands today and I'm running some fairly new Hankook V12s on that.. There's a huge noticeable difference in performance coming from the P7s to summer tires, but feeling every bump in the road isn't worth the trouble. Figured that I'd cover all the bases lol.
#30
A new tire will not handle the same as a broken-in tire.
Tires that come as OEM are sometimes quite expensive. Anybody can guess the exact reason, but it is often theorized that they're expensive specifically because they were OEM. But I've never heard of a "same model" vs. "OEM"....as an example, a Michelin Primacy MXM4 is the same tire whether it shipped on your car or was purchased from somewhere else. But a new tire will not handle or sound like a used tire. Some tire models age gracefully, others not so much.
I've read reviews of tires specifically marketed as having noise-cancelling design, only to find after they start to wear they get excessively loud. Welcome to the real world.
Tires that come as OEM are sometimes quite expensive. Anybody can guess the exact reason, but it is often theorized that they're expensive specifically because they were OEM. But I've never heard of a "same model" vs. "OEM"....as an example, a Michelin Primacy MXM4 is the same tire whether it shipped on your car or was purchased from somewhere else. But a new tire will not handle or sound like a used tire. Some tire models age gracefully, others not so much.
I've read reviews of tires specifically marketed as having noise-cancelling design, only to find after they start to wear they get excessively loud. Welcome to the real world.