I replaced the OEM Bridgestone Turanza tires
04-16-16, 03:09 PM
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I replaced the OEM Bridgestone Turanza tires
My '15 (non F-sport) GS came with Bridgestone Turanza ER33 tires from factory. These are one of the most atrocious tires I have experienced in a new car. They were noisy as hell and did send a jolt to the cabin for every road imperfection. My other car, a BMW on 19" run-flat tires, runs smoother and quieter! I could not take them anymore after 1,600 miles. It felt like I purchased a Lexus and getting Chevy-grade NVH.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
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My '15 (non F-sport) GS came with Bridgestone Turanza ER33 tires from factory. These are one of the most atrocious tires I have experienced in a new car. They were noisy as hell and did send a jolt to the cabin for every road imperfection. My other car, a BMW on 19" run-flat tires, runs smoother and quieter! I could not take them anymore after 1,600 miles. It felt like I purchased a Lexus and getting Chevy-grade NVH.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
04-16-16, 10:04 PM
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Neil/Todd: Whats your assessment of the grip and handling of the Pirelli's compared to the Bridgestone's you guys replaced?
04-16-16, 11:26 PM
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No change in grip on dry pavement - haven't driven on wet roads yet. I like Pirelli's handling better because with them the GS feels more planted. You can feel the undulations of the road but those does not unsettle the chassis.
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My '15 (non F-sport) GS came with Bridgestone Turanza ER33 tires from factory. These are one of the most atrocious tires I have experienced in a new car. They were noisy as hell and did send a jolt to the cabin for every road imperfection. My other car, a BMW on 19" run-flat tires, runs smoother and quieter! I could not take them anymore after 1,600 miles. It felt like I purchased a Lexus and getting Chevy-grade NVH.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
Based on the positive reviews on this forum, I replaced the tires with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus last week. I purchased the tires from TireRack and got them installed at a local shop for approximately $800 total. Boy, what a difference! The impact harshness is gone - the ride is firm (but not jarring) on uneven surfaces, and the GS just glides along on smooth roads. The tire noise also went down by 20-25% (though I think the 4GS is not exactly a 'Lexus Quiet' sedan, perhaps by design).
Anyway, the bottom line is if you have Turanza ER33 in your GS, I'd highly recommend getting Cinturato P7 A/S next time you get a new set of tires. It will breathe new life into your GS. I am also somewhat disappointed that Lexus went with ER33 in the first place in a premium sedan like GS. Regular car buyers (i.e. those who are not members of ClubLexus) will blame the terrible NVH on Lexus, not understanding that it's not the car's fault - Lexus just went with crappy Bridgestones to save a few bucks.
04-17-16, 06:46 AM
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If there is no change in grip on dry pavement, then the new Pirelli Cinturatos which are also silicone impregnated green tires for low rolling resistance must have poor grip too?
Very interesting that you say the Pirelli Cinturatos have less impact than the Turanza ER33's over bumps.
I may have to try them next time.
To my surprise, I've certainly found the 4GS to be much less comfortable and quiet than I originally thought after multiple test drives; I find that this generation of 4GS was designed for dynamics and handling, at the expense of ride and refinement.
IMO, I believe that Lexus should design the GS with at least two completely different suspension settings: a Luxury suspension setting, and an F Sport suspension setting etc.
Pity the Base/Luxury suspension setting was so firm and sporty.
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Hmmm, the Turanza ER33 is a silicone impregnated green tire to improve fuel economy.
If there is no change in grip on dry pavement, then the new Pirelli Cinturatos which are also silicone impregnated green tires for low rolling resistance must have poor grip too?
Very interesting that you say the Pirelli Cinturatos have less impact than the Turanza ER33's over bumps.
I may have to try them next time.
To my surprise, I've certainly found the 4GS to be much less comfortable and quiet than I originally thought after multiple test drives; I find that this generation of 4GS was designed for dynamics and handling, at the expense of ride and refinement.
IMO, I believe that Lexus should design the GS with at least two completely different suspension settings: a Luxury suspension setting, and an F Sport suspension setting etc.
Pity the Base/Luxury suspension setting was so firm and sporty.
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If there is no change in grip on dry pavement, then the new Pirelli Cinturatos which are also silicone impregnated green tires for low rolling resistance must have poor grip too?
Very interesting that you say the Pirelli Cinturatos have less impact than the Turanza ER33's over bumps.
I may have to try them next time.
To my surprise, I've certainly found the 4GS to be much less comfortable and quiet than I originally thought after multiple test drives; I find that this generation of 4GS was designed for dynamics and handling, at the expense of ride and refinement.
IMO, I believe that Lexus should design the GS with at least two completely different suspension settings: a Luxury suspension setting, and an F Sport suspension setting etc.
Pity the Base/Luxury suspension setting was so firm and sporty.
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04-18-16, 02:31 PM
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So it sounds like the Cinturatos have both better grip, and a much smoother ride than the Turanza ER33's.
I notice that base model IS's are fitted with ER33's too, while the F Sport is fitted with Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 050 or something like that, the latter which delivers more grip, but at the expense of ride comfort, noise, and wear.
A year or two ago, I noticed that the F Sport were fitted with something like Bridgestone Pontenzas which probably provided more grip, but were even noisier, and apparently had very short tread life.
I will certainly give the Cinturato P7's a go next time, because I need ride comfort and low noise; I don't really need grip that much.
I notice that base model IS's are fitted with ER33's too, while the F Sport is fitted with Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 050 or something like that, the latter which delivers more grip, but at the expense of ride comfort, noise, and wear.
A year or two ago, I noticed that the F Sport were fitted with something like Bridgestone Pontenzas which probably provided more grip, but were even noisier, and apparently had very short tread life.
I will certainly give the Cinturato P7's a go next time, because I need ride comfort and low noise; I don't really need grip that much.
04-20-16, 02:45 PM
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I had the Dunlops on my 2014 GS 350 F Sport and it had over 39k and still had 5/32 tread left after i return it to Lexus... The pirelli's P Zero's on the other hand sucks on my MB C63 AMG... Not even 10k miles and it had to be replaced...
04-20-16, 05:39 PM
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How did you drive your C63?
04-20-16, 09:34 PM
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The GS needs some new rubber and I had the Cinturato P7s AS on my 3G TL, they were great tires. Looking at those for the GS, hopefully the local America's Tire has them in stock.