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In truth, it's not only Toyotas that resemble Lexus in the overall overtone, but all modern cars today follow a similar overall shape as others have commented in the photo below.
Gone are the plain regular rectangular tail lights from the 1980's.
In is the complex polyhedral shaped rear tail light lenses of 2010's.
You could say they all copy off each other.
Some people say that design follows a "convergence".
The cars have a similar overall shape; they only differ in the details.
At the front, Toyota & Lexus is really lucky they created a family look based on the spindle grille, because the superman-like hex seems to be used by Hyundai, Audi, and even Ford and Subaru, and a number of other makes!!!
Just compare the overall shape of a Hyundai Genesis grille to the Subaru Legacy's grille?
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Now not only do Lexus and toyotas look the same but all cars are similar? listen I get your point but those cars in that pic all look different.
Toyota and Audi grills are totally different, they both use different patterns and shapes invoking a totally different "emotion" to their fronts and overall car. Plus you can't just point out one piece of design out of a cars 200 parts and claim they all look the same, theres the silhouette, windshield shape/angle, window shape/height, wheels, hood shape, side panels, door length/height, trunk shape/length/angle, headlights etc etc. Using this same logic here every single new model is the same car because they have LED daytime running lights! Come on guys :|
And please I LOVE Jalopnik car blog but lets refrain from taking their advice about anything modern and design related, as someone posted the other day they don't like anything that's not brown, manual, RWD and miata :/
The basic overall silhouette is the same.
The details are different.
Because all the makes actually copy off one another.
That's why they all move to small capacity turbos.
They all move to 8 speed, and now even 9 speed gearboxes etc.
They all will move to high aluminium content chassis for weight reduction.
The overall concept is similar.
Only the fine details differ.
Why get into a spin over the overall concept, as opposed to the fine details?
Now were going into engines and turbos? Sorry Pete, the only reason everyone is using turbos is to abide by a new law that mandates all cars must meet a certain efficiency threshold in regards to fuel consumption.
Everyone doing turbos has zero to do with what we are discussing here, which is the design of the look of the car. What started this discussion is the awfully blind comparison of a Camry vs GS, which look absolutely nothing alike except that they have 4 wheels and contain a stereo inside. I have both cars sitting in my driveway and only a blind person would make that comparison.
Some people love cars while other merely sit in them.
The Hyundai and Mazda rears are a direct copy of the GS. I don't know who came up with the rear design like that first, was it Lexus or Hyundai? I know Mazda was the last one that jumped in. Mazda's latest designs are really Lexus knock offs.
There's one thing that all of those tail lights share in that image, and thats the angle of the inner section like so:
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The hyundai tails do look a bit like GS, but only from far away.
And IMO Fily The Mazda designs are VERY close to Infiniti. Silhouette is practically identical as are lights.
There's one thing that all of those tail lights share in that image, and thats the angle of the inner section like so:
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The hyundai tails do look a bit like GS, but only from far away.
And IMO Fily The Mazda designs are VERY close to Infiniti. Silhouette is practically identical as are lights.
It's close if you're unable to pay attention to details, sure. They're both a shade of red, both have four doors, four wheels, and windows. And yes, they all have the same aerodynamic shape that most four-door sedans share. Otherwise, the closest resemblance I see is the shape of the side profile of the tail lights. The rest looks different.
Attention to detail, my friends.
It's close if you're unable to pay attention to details, sure. Otherwise, the closest resemblance I see is the shape of the side profile of the tail lights. The rest looks different.
Attention to detail, my friends.
Originally Posted by MEAHT
Silhouette is practically identical as are lights.
Um....
Sir did you even read what I wrote?
But like you said, attention to detail right?
1) Firstly, the overall concept, the overall idea, the overall silhouette, the overall shape etc.
The overall concept tends to be the same, for example,
a) we presently all use internal combustion engines,
b) we are presently moving towards small capacity forced induction,
c) we may all move towards electric-motor assisted turbos,
d) we are moving towards "poly" speed gearboxes eg 8 ratios or more,
e) we all use polygonal headlights and tail lights,
f) bumper bars front, rear, and side protection strips are all integrated,
g) LED lights front and rear are in,
h) we have gone from circular exhaust tips, to elliptical, and now polygonal exhaust tips,
i) the list goes on...
2) Secondly, there are the details, and this is where each model differs.
No one said that a Camry looks "exactly" the same as a 4GS?
Did anyone say that a Lexus 2.0 turbo is "exactly" the same as a Benz 2.0 turbo?
I have driven both, and their response, torque and power curves are very similar; the pair are mainly different in NVH, with the more experienced Benz unit smoother revving.
Sure, the overall concept of a 2.0L turbo is the same, however they differ in the details.
Only an 85 year old grandma with absolutely no interest in motor cars, and deteriorating eyesight, could possibly mistaken a Camry for a 4GS, or a Lexus 2.0 turbo for a Benz 2.0 turbo.
Whether a person talks about the overall concept being similar, or the fine details being different, both facets are correct.
We can talk from either point of view, and both points of view are equally correct.
There really is no big issue.
The overall concepts are the same.
They differ in the details.
No one actually said the details were exactly the same...
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11-16-15, 06:09 AM
I don't know who came up with the rear design like that first, was it Lexus or Hyundai? I know Mazda was the last one that jumped in. Mazda's latest designs are really Lexus knock offs. 
