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Firs offer from dealer on a 2015 GS 350 - how much better can I do?

Old 08-13-15, 06:18 AM
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Hi everyone, new to the Forum and looking at a '15 GS 350 F-Sport - pretty much fully loaded. Got my first offer from the dealer. Sticker is $60,685, offer was for $56,742. I know I can do a lot better than that, but how low can I expect to land? Also, dealer offered a one-time lease payment of $19,240 for 3 years/10k miles driven by that offer amount above. Any thoughts on that?
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Lease should be down to low $520/month especially with single pmt lease option. This is a low risk transaction.
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Originally Posted by johnstred
Hi everyone, new to the Forum and looking at a '15 GS 350 F-Sport - pretty much fully loaded. Got my first offer from the dealer. Sticker is $60,685, offer was for $56,742. I know I can do a lot better than that, but how low can I expect to land? Also, dealer offered a one-time lease payment of $19,240 for 3 years/10k miles driven by that offer amount above. Any thoughts on that?

go to truecar.com, build the car as you were quoted and get a TRUE price in your area, then print it out and go to the dealer....

why would anyone do a one pay lease? you could keep $20,000 in an account making money for you.... If you are looking to lease, why not explore putting down max MSD's?
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You can do a lot better but I would wait until 7 tonight to see if the refresh debuts. You may like it.
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Never put money down on a lease. Never
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Why would u pay ur lease payments all at once? If ur buying it's a different story. Keep the money in ur pocket and do it monthly, if something happens to the car during the lease ur already out 19 Grand.
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Originally Posted by Boomin
Never put money down on a lease. Never
I usually wound not, but this is simply pre-pay all 36 payments at once, so no monthly payments at all for the 3 years. This is not a money down to bring the cap cost down.
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Originally Posted by johnstred
I usually wound not, but this is simply pre-pay all 36 payments at once, so no monthly payments at all for the 3 years. This is not a money down to bring the cap cost down.
I don't understand the point of one pay leases...

If You have an extra $20,000 lying around, why not put it in an interest bearing account and let it work for you? It doesn't make financial sense to me to give it to LFS and let them collect interest off it
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Originally Posted by LI IS
I don't understand the point of one pay leases...

If You have an extra $20,000 lying around, why not put it in an interest bearing account and let it work for you? It doesn't make financial sense to me to give it to LFS and let them collect interest off it
Based on the two quotes (the monthly payments x 35 - first payment incl) and the one up-front payment), this would save me almost $4000 over the life of the lease as I don't pay sales tax and the money factor is 0. I did the math of the two offers. You cant get that kind of a return on $20K unless you are very lucky at stocks or gambling. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by johnstred
Based on the two quotes (the monthly payments x 35 - first payment incl) and the one up-front payment), this would save me almost $4000 over the life of the lease as I don't pay sales tax and the money factor is 0. I did the math of the two offers. You cant get that kind of a return on $20K unless you are very lucky at stocks or gambling. Am I missing something?
ah ok, now I see, I did not realize the pre pay lease was that much less expensive..

You can still do better on the sale price
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Are u sure ur not paying tax on a one pay lease? It might be included already and dealer is just scamming u.
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How is it possible to not pay taxes? I bet you that 19k includes taxes...
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Bottom line as it was spelled out by the dealer... pay $19,240.15 out the door which includes all my lease payments and any and all fees (or taxes???). With a residual of $36, 843.39. All based on the initial offer price of $56,742.00 plus sales tax, registration and fees which would total $60,735.19! Car MSRP is $60,685.00

This is interesting. If you add the one-pay lease number to the residual, the sum is LESS than the negotiated price of the car. ($56,083 vs. $56,742.) ... That's why I am asking if I am missing something. I do have this in a written quote from the dealer.
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Bottom line: paying up front should reduce the net out cost because they are sitting on your $20k for 3 years & there is no risk of default. Get a better deal for "all up front" if that's what you choose to do.
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Originally Posted by johnstred
Hi everyone, new to the Forum and looking at a '15 GS 350 F-Sport - pretty much fully loaded. Got my first offer from the dealer. Sticker is $60,685, offer was for $56,742. I know I can do a lot better than that, but how low can I expect to land? Also, dealer offered a one-time lease payment of $19,240 for 3 years/10k miles driven by that offer amount above. Any thoughts on that?
What is the invoice price?
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