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#46
Lexus Test Driver
Subaru has been making turbos with AWD since forever right? Maybe reliability issue?
#48
Lexus Test Driver
Yup, then back to my point, the IS300 is basically pointless. Just make 200t and 350 in both RWD and AWD and call it a day.
Why even think about detuning the engine, they're supposed to upgrade it to 350+ HP not downgrade it. lol
Why even think about detuning the engine, they're supposed to upgrade it to 350+ HP not downgrade it. lol
#49
Lexus Champion
The AWD system in the NX200t is a FWD based system and wouldn't work in the IS. The 2.0t in the NX is transversely mounted, whereas in the IS it is mounted longitudinally. I'm of the opinion the Lexus deemed it too expensive/not worth it to design a new interface between the IS AWD system and the 2.0t mounted in this configuration. Given that decision, the only way they could still offer AWD in two different engine configurations would be to either keep the 2.5 V6, or detune the 3.5 V6. I think they made the better choice.
I don't really understand why it's a problem. Both the IS200t and the IS300 will be huge performance improvements over the IS250.
I don't really understand why it's a problem. Both the IS200t and the IS300 will be huge performance improvements over the IS250.
Last edited by JDR76; 07-28-15 at 09:20 AM.
#50
Lexus Test Driver
They should've gone all electric with the IS300. IS300e AWD or a hybrid, IS300h.
#51
Lead Lap
Well, we can only guess until we hear otherwise, but I am of the belief that either there is a technical reason preventing Lexus from doing it, or the business case for developing it couldn't close, so it was just cheaper to detune the 3.5 liter, use the existing AWD setup, and call it a day.
#52
The AWD system in the NX200t is a FWD based system and wouldn't work in the IS. The 2.0t in the NX is transversely mounted, whereas in the IS it is mounted longitudinally. I'm of the opinion the Lexus deemed it too expensive/not worth it to design a new interface between the IS AWD system and the 2.0t mounted in this configuration. Given that decision, the only way they could still offer AWD in two different engine configurations would be to either keep the 2.5 V6, or detune the 3.5 V6. I think they made the better choice.
I don't really understand why it's a problem. Both the IS200t and the IS300 will be huge performance improvements over the IS250.
I don't really understand why it's a problem. Both the IS200t and the IS300 will be huge performance improvements over the IS250.
Last edited by peteharvey; 07-28-15 at 02:29 PM.
#53
Lexus Test Driver
And about detuning the V8's, I never understood that. When a DI v6 can shame your V8, you really screwed up your v8.
#54
So far, all four generations of GS's have been fairly simple and clean.
This top selling badge won't age too gracefully.
Pity all those sharp and deep lines/creases...
Likewise, look at how the previous C Class aged.
I'm not sure how well the new C Class will age either, with those multiple deep horizontal grooves, but at least it will age better than the previous C and the current E Class.
This top selling badge won't age too gracefully.
Pity all those sharp and deep lines/creases...
Likewise, look at how the previous C Class aged.
I'm not sure how well the new C Class will age either, with those multiple deep horizontal grooves, but at least it will age better than the previous C and the current E Class.
Last edited by peteharvey; 07-28-15 at 02:36 PM.
#56
1GS: Square, but very rounded edges; aging very well.
2GS: Both square and with sharper edges; hasn't aged quite as well as the others.
3GS: Rounded shape, but with sharp edges.
4GS: Although square, albeit mixed with stylish angles, the moderately rounded edges will age well.
While 1GS more square , 2GS mixed, and 3GS more rounded, the 4GS seems to be most angular to give style and aggression.
All GS' seem to have fewer, shallower & rounder lines for a cleaner look with timeless aging.
It seems that aging has more to do with sharp edges, than with an overall square shape?
All GS' seem to have long wheelbases with short overhangs to also help reduce aging.
Small rolling diameter tires, baggy sidewalls, and even smaller diameter rims - gives rise to age, esp to 1GS & 2GS.
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2GS: Both square and with sharper edges; hasn't aged quite as well as the others.
3GS: Rounded shape, but with sharp edges.
4GS: Although square, albeit mixed with stylish angles, the moderately rounded edges will age well.
While 1GS more square , 2GS mixed, and 3GS more rounded, the 4GS seems to be most angular to give style and aggression.
All GS' seem to have fewer, shallower & rounder lines for a cleaner look with timeless aging.
It seems that aging has more to do with sharp edges, than with an overall square shape?
All GS' seem to have long wheelbases with short overhangs to also help reduce aging.
Small rolling diameter tires, baggy sidewalls, and even smaller diameter rims - gives rise to age, esp to 1GS & 2GS.
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Last edited by peteharvey; 07-28-15 at 04:41 PM.
#57
Lexus Test Driver
Hey look! They finally put fog lights on that IS FSport! Maybe the GS will follow.
#58
Lexus Champion
#59
Lexus Test Driver
Well damn! They're cheaping out on us again.
#60
Can you reprogram all these detuned IS300s and in effect get a cheaper IS 350? That's crazy, meaning they are making bank on the IS350 if they can sell the IS300 for the price of the 250AWD, with the exact same parts..