dseag2

True that. With the weight and the dead steering in the Bimmers these days it should shred them in the twisties.

2014GS350F

Really? Fail? That's a bold statement for a car that puts out 467hp off the showroom floor. Pretty sure you'd change your mind if you drove it. I bet that thing is a track monster.

vtp86

I was actually hoping they produce a RX-F. It would make for one mean looking SUV Crossover that can compete with BMW's X5M, Audi's SQ5 or Mercedes ML-AMG.

With that said, imagine if they were able to stick this RCF / GS engine and transmission with the IS. You're looking at a roughly 3,400 -3,500 lb car with 467 hp at the wheels. That thing would FLY.

dsouth

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Lexus did not hit a home run with this car. My 07 rs4 has 420hp/awd.
My 1990 z32 has over 800hp haha. Lexus' strong suit is not the ultimate driving machine but reliability.

I still have my 98 gs400 because it's reliable but have bought other German, Japanese brands looking for more horsepower.

Who knows, if someone came out with a turbo kit for this engine, then I might consider it.

2014GS350F

You guys see the interior yet? Sorry if this was already posted. Not about to go through 38 pages to see.

http://autoweek.com/article/detroit-...uto-show-debut

Looks super sweet. Like the carbon fiber, two tone leather and those seats are sick! 467hp or 567hp, I don't care, I'd love to have this car.

natnut

Because the ultimate driving machine is all about horsepower only.

bocahoo

Why would you think that? There was an IS-F and it was over 3,800 lbs. The current IS F Sport is ~3,600 lbs with a V6, so dropping in a V8 is going to add to that. And I'm pretty sure the 467 hp of the RCF/GS is at the crank. In order to have 467 hp at the wheels, you'd need 550-575HP at the crank.

rominl

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rx-f? i am not sure if a fwd car like rx can ever come close to x5m or ml63

the interior is great for the rcf, but to be honest i am not sure for the gsf (if we think mid-size segment). plus i believe 2 tone is not making its way to the US. not to mention the steering wheel i think is a step down

dsouth

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It is sir. When you experience luxury and power, there is no substitute. I'm still a loyal Lexus/Toyota fan but life has blessed me to move on to other platforms instead of defending a bland brand.


Hence why I've not been active.

Nosexnolex

I always had toyota product but after selling my GS for M5 I never even looked back and now understand the whole M thing... There is no comparison, but i am patiently waiting to test drive the GS-F as I waited for one for so many years, which is why I ended up in a manual 6 spd M5.

I wish the GS came with at least 500HP especially since the older E60 M5 had 500+ but lets not forget that the car is 4000 pounds which is still 200 pounds heavier than my M5 after installing coilers, brakes, exhaust etc it dropped that 200 pounds, and Im sure with intake, headers etc we can read 520 fly wheel HP?

vtp86

Apparently, I like to get my curb weight of cars wrong lol But I'm just imagining a car with the v8 engine that will be lighter than the RCF.

vtp86

I know the RX is FWD, but just a pipe dream for a RWD RX with the crazy signature spindle grille, side fenders, and quad exhausts

natnut

I'm not so sure about that. Forgive me but I think all this excessive hp oneupsmanship is just a way for the Germans to mask the fact that their cars, especially recent BMWs, are overweight and numb. Sure you go fast in a straight line but then what else? Recent test drives of BMWs, Audis and Lexus cars have further reinforced my growing realization that Germans have lost their mojo and are relying on power to mask their shortcomings.

Like some commentators on DRIVE YT channel said, all this power is just a consolation prize for the fact that German cars just don't give a very good road/steering feel anymore. So they aim for the jolt in the pants and make the car a handful to drive in the hope that you mistake jerky power delivery and scary handling as "good driving cars".

Good thing Lexus gets that and refuses to play this brainless game of diminishing returns on driver satisfaction.

ExVOLVxE

super sexy...love it

jjscsix

I'm humored by all of the "failed" posts saying that 465 hp is not enough. You guys do know you are on a forum for a car that only has 306 hp now, don't you?

I've said it before, wait until pricing is announced. It will be much cheaper than the 550+HP cars y'all think it is supposed to compete against. It will be priced like a 440 hp BMW 550 or 450 hp Audi S6. I'll bet on it.