Headlamp conversion for 2013 Lexus GS350
#31
Driver School Candidate
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I'm thinking doing the JDM LED headlight conversion. Can anyone here confirm if it's plug-and-play or I totally need a different harness? I think the connectors are the same and the Xenon headlight (Brown) is missing one pin wire where the LED headlight (Blue) has a white wire in place and I'm not sure if all the colored wires are matched. Got these pictures off of google.
#34
Several issues one might run into is the AFS programming and missing components needed for the headlights to swivel at night. I would have to look at one of our GS450h fleet cars and see if the headlights use the same plug harnesses.
As for the "cool factor" as much as I like the LED ones, I have driven both at night, and I prefer the HID ones. Reason being, the cut off is not as direct as the LED ones, giving you more light, the HID seem brighter, where as the LED seem to be all one even brightness all around. And lastly, when using your brights, the LED one uses a standard halogen bulb vs. the HID ones which are Bi-Xenon that use the same low-beam HID bulb.
As for the "cool factor" as much as I like the LED ones, I have driven both at night, and I prefer the HID ones. Reason being, the cut off is not as direct as the LED ones, giving you more light, the HID seem brighter, where as the LED seem to be all one even brightness all around. And lastly, when using your brights, the LED one uses a standard halogen bulb vs. the HID ones which are Bi-Xenon that use the same low-beam HID bulb.
#35
Lexus Champion
Yet, when you take a look at the Lexus websites for Europe and Japan, one can clearly notice that all GS F SPORT vehicles have HID Bi-Xenon headlights with:
-Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
and
-Automatic High Beam (AHB)
Heck, even a European GS 250 F SPORT has AFS
http://www.lexus.eu/car-models/gs/gs...Specifications
http://lexus.jp/models/gs/specificat...350/index.html
So with that in mind, I think it's a matter of whether any additional programming would be needed....
P.S.
Anyways, for those who have done retrofits and installation swap (HID Bi-Xenon -> FULL LED), please be kind enough to post some guides
Thanks
Last edited by Blackraven; 04-20-14 at 09:32 AM.
#37
Sorry for not being on the forums as I'm busy with finals. So to summarize this:
If you have F sport In the US you are screwed! Because all LED headlights ever made have AFS so you will have issues with your Auto level on your F sport. The high beam issue is solved easily. If you have the Luxury package GS then you are solid and the full LED will work fine. I took mine off and They are up for sale. They work on Both GS but the F sport you will have a stupid triangle on the dash stating that your auto level is malfunctioning! If you can live with that or try to disconnect the fuse that relates to it is fine but me I need everything to be OEM. So mine is up for sale and yes both low and high beam work on F sport its just the auto level that doesn't. For luxury GSs it's plug N play
If you have F sport In the US you are screwed! Because all LED headlights ever made have AFS so you will have issues with your Auto level on your F sport. The high beam issue is solved easily. If you have the Luxury package GS then you are solid and the full LED will work fine. I took mine off and They are up for sale. They work on Both GS but the F sport you will have a stupid triangle on the dash stating that your auto level is malfunctioning! If you can live with that or try to disconnect the fuse that relates to it is fine but me I need everything to be OEM. So mine is up for sale and yes both low and high beam work on F sport its just the auto level that doesn't. For luxury GSs it's plug N play
#38
Lexus Champion
Sorry for not being on the forums as I'm busy with finals. So to summarize this: If you have F sport In the US you are screwed! Because all LED headlights ever made have AFS so you will have issues with your Auto level on your F sport. The high beam issue is solved easily. If you have the Luxury package GS then you are solid and the full LED will work fine. I took mine off and They are up for sale. They work on Both GS but the F sport you will have a stupid triangle on the dash stating that your auto level is malfunctioning! If you can live with that or try to disconnect the fuse that relates to it is fine but me I need everything to be OEM. So mine is up for sale and yes both low and high beam work on F sport its just the auto level that doesn't. For luxury GSs it's plug N play
#39
Lexus Champion
#42
Lexus Champion
^^^
That's a bummer
Still, on a more positive note, at least it's good that the Full LED headlamps only requires AFS and that Auto High Beam is optional/not required.
With that said, I don't know if there is a remedy for GS F Sport vehicles in the North America market. Do you think adding AFS would mean just adding some components? Additional software programming? Or does it involve something more complex than that? (i.e. CAN-BUS network)
P.S.
Slightly off-topic though some related:
Here's a forum discussion regarding rear fog lamp installation for the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some technical discussion and whatnot
For those who are curious, this is a good read:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion...tricky-subject
That's a bummer
Still, on a more positive note, at least it's good that the Full LED headlamps only requires AFS and that Auto High Beam is optional/not required.
With that said, I don't know if there is a remedy for GS F Sport vehicles in the North America market. Do you think adding AFS would mean just adding some components? Additional software programming? Or does it involve something more complex than that? (i.e. CAN-BUS network)
P.S.
Slightly off-topic though some related:
Here's a forum discussion regarding rear fog lamp installation for the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some technical discussion and whatnot
For those who are curious, this is a good read:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion...tricky-subject
Last edited by Blackraven; 04-22-14 at 07:08 AM.
#43
^^^ That's a bummer Still, on a more positive note, at least it's good that the Full LED headlamps only requires AFS and that Auto High Beam is optional/not required. With that said, I don't know if there is a remedy for GS F Sport vehicles in the North America market. Do you think adding AFS would mean just adding some components? Additional software programming? Or does it involve something more complex than that? (i.e. CAN-BUS network) P.S. Slightly off-topic though some related: Here's a forum discussion regarding rear fog lamp installation for the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some technical discussion and whatnot For those who are curious, this is a good read: http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion...tricky-subject
#44
Driver School Candidate
Sorry for not being on the forums as I'm busy with finals. So to summarize this:
If you have F sport In the US you are screwed! Because all LED headlights ever made have AFS so you will have issues with your Auto level on your F sport. The high beam issue is solved easily. If you have the Luxury package GS then you are solid and the full LED will work fine. I took mine off and They are up for sale. They work on Both GS but the F sport you will have a stupid triangle on the dash stating that your auto level is malfunctioning! If you can live with that or try to disconnect the fuse that relates to it is fine but me I need everything to be OEM. So mine is up for sale and yes both low and high beam work on F sport its just the auto level that doesn't. For luxury GSs it's plug N play
If you have F sport In the US you are screwed! Because all LED headlights ever made have AFS so you will have issues with your Auto level on your F sport. The high beam issue is solved easily. If you have the Luxury package GS then you are solid and the full LED will work fine. I took mine off and They are up for sale. They work on Both GS but the F sport you will have a stupid triangle on the dash stating that your auto level is malfunctioning! If you can live with that or try to disconnect the fuse that relates to it is fine but me I need everything to be OEM. So mine is up for sale and yes both low and high beam work on F sport its just the auto level that doesn't. For luxury GSs it's plug N play
#45
Driver School Candidate
Bottom headlight image with angled lines
Does the bottom headlight image with angled lines going through a vertical line mean I have AFS or auto leveling headlights? I have a 2016 GS350F sport luxury package Mark Levinson sound system etc... But it seems like the headlights are always just pointing straight so paint me confused. Thanks in advance.
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