Originally Posted by rominl

well, i am a car guy not a brand guy, i like good cars, period... i have owned quite a few brands of cars so to me it's all about what you want, you give some, you get some

Originally Posted by rominl

well, i am a car guy not a brand guy, i like good cars, period... i have owned quite a few brands of cars so to me it's all about what you want, you give some, you get some

Originally Posted by x838nwy

It seems that quite a few of us:

1.) Look forward to the GS-F
2.) Would not be all that surprised if the power is a bit off from the Germans

Which I take to mean:
a.) WE WANT YOU TO MAKE A GS-F!!!! which is great and I hope Lexus listens to this. Let's not do a Jaguar and have every bloody comparo feature a "bit it's a bit down on power" clause. But what should really be worring Lexus is
b.) That more than a few are not expecting Lexus to make headlines with its power output or performance. To me, this just goes to show that for whatever reason, we've gotten so used to Lexus not being a "performance" choice. A bit like how a Jaugar owner wouldn't be too miffed if they do badly in reliability ratings.

If the new M5 does a slower 'ring time (and i know how senseless this is, but people seem to care) than the E63, internet forums will be alight with abuse. But if the GS-F posts a sjgnificantly slower time then some will be disappointed but most would have been expecting that. And I am pretty sure this is exactly the perception they are trying to change with this generation of GS's.

I really hope that up their game with the GS-F and take the germans on equal terms. And I cannot wait to see what they come up with...

Originally Posted by BNR34

That's how I live too. Of course I care for brand image, more the better. But my priority is on quality and substance first.

I take a great Hyundai over a bad Bugatti, I just can't stand bad cars.

Originally Posted by jjscsix

I agree. I get annoyed at people who bash other brands just because it's not what they buy. I get three car magazines a month, and I'm one of those people who reads every road test, even if it's a mini van or entry level economy car (neither of which you could give me).

Originally Posted by rominl

hahaa but that means you probably won't own any exotics

Originally Posted by BNR34

In the old days yes, that's why I had Nissan GTR and WRX STi over M3 and 911 10 years ago. But all latest Euro exotics have became extremely good.

Take the F355 for example, as hot as it is, it is just not a very good car.

That is bad. In the old days, I don't even want them regardless of if I can actually afford them. Now I want them but just can't afford them

Originally Posted by rominl

if you are under the perception that exotic nowadays are trouble free, i think that's not correct. you just don't hear about all the problems because... owners don't talk about it to "outside"

Originally Posted by NEbiker10

This thing is going to be sick. The v8 is back(5.0) packing 461hp with 402 tq. Sick! Brembo brakes, 19's made by BBS. 0-60 in 4.4 seconds! The article goes on to even they have tuned the engine and exhaust to blip. Dope.


Who is not excited for this car! This now makes me wanna keep my 400 and just wait till thing comes out.

https://www.clublexus.com/april-fools.jpg

https://www.clublexus.com/articles/g...el-details.php

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411

don't be too dishearted (is that a word lol) we all know its coming. Probably around the same time the 8-speed auto comes to the 350. They don't engineer a car with this much room if they don't have a plan for something monstrous