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Preliminary Specs GS350 (HP, Torque, 0-60, etc.)

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Old 08-20-11, 10:21 AM
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I was browsing the net and I came across the specs of the 2012 GS350 in Australia. Torque (376Nm = 277 lb-ft) and top speed (230Km = 142mph) are identical to the US version, estimated 0-62 (instead of 0-60) in 5.7s and horsepower is 233Kw which is 312HP or 317PS. Just for reference, 306HP is 228Kw.
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Originally Posted by irebel
I was browsing the net and I came across the specs of the 2012 GS350 in Australia. Torque (376Nm = 277 lb-ft) and top speed (230Km = 142mph) are identical to the US version, estimated 0-62 (instead of 0-60) in 5.7s and horsepower is 233Kw which is 312HP or 317PS. Just for reference, 306HP is 228Kw.
slightly different ratings i believe...

(as in different countries having different ratings, but engines are the same)

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Old 08-20-11, 03:00 PM
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I'll be honest, my thoughts have changed and driving a regular V-8 around town isn't really appealing to me UNLESS its a high performance model.
I don't think you need to get an M-tuned car to have fun with a V8. The BMW 550i with the Dinan Stage 1 upgrade which I am getting in October is going to have 495hp, 571 lb ft torque, and 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. I think that's going to be quite a leap from the GS460s and GS450hs 0-60 in 5.5 seconds.
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Originally Posted by *Batman*
I don't think you need to get an M-tuned car to have fun with a V8. The BMW 550i with the Dinan Stage 1 upgrade which I am getting in October is going to have 495hp, 571 lb ft torque, and 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. I think that's going to be quite a leap from the GS460s and GS450hs 0-60 in 5.5 seconds.
Never been a fan of brute "overclocking" - there are always downsides to that. You'll lose some driveability, refinement, and reliability. Why not do it proper and go with M5?
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i guess they're getting the crowd a first taste with the V6 models.
Old 08-20-11, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
mike that's not a good way for comparison, there are a lot of other factors. but one thing we can say is gs460 is about 300lb lighter than the gs450h. so unless the new hybrid has some much lighter battery and/or improved lighter engine, it's heavier than a comparable v8 variant
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Considering a hybrid with its batteries and complexity is no longer heavier than the V-8 competition I think its a great point to make. In 2007 the GS 450h was heavier than the 545, M45, E500. Today the GS 450h is lighter than all the new versions of it. Lexus is trying to hold the weight down where everyone else isn't. That should be commended. It should be blasted, isn't this what people and the media always ask for? Lighter cars? So Lexus does it and its not important or not great?


Originally Posted by *Batman*
I don't think you need to get an M-tuned car to have fun with a V8. The BMW 550i with the Dinan Stage 1 upgrade which I am getting in October is going to have 495hp, 571 lb ft torque, and 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. I think that's going to be quite a leap from the GS460s and GS450hs 0-60 in 5.5 seconds.
I'm sure it will be fun My tastes have changed, I did the modded V-8 sedan thing twice and I doubt I go that route ever again. My interests are in a factory tuned model or hybrids.

If I got a BMW it would be a manual, period. To me that is the entire point of a BMW, they offer manuals and Lexus and others don't.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Considering a hybrid with its batteries and complexity is no longer heavier than the V-8 competition I think its a great point to make. In 2007 the GS 450h was heavier than the 545, M45, E500. Today the GS 450h is lighter than all the new versions of it. Lexus is trying to hold the weight down where everyone else isn't. That should be commended. It should be blasted, isn't this what people and the media always ask for? Lighter cars? So Lexus does it and its not important or not great?




I'm sure it will be fun My tastes have changed, I did the modded V-8 sedan thing twice and I doubt I go that route ever again. My interests are in a factory tuned model or hybrids.

If I got a BMW it would be a manual, period. To me that is the entire point of a BMW, they offer manuals and Lexus and others don't.
oh i am not taking away their credit on that at all. i am just saying that by comparison, at least the data we have so far, the hybrid is still heavier than the v8. but maybe in a few months, lexus will debut the gsh with new batteries and other surprises!!!

lol mike i guess we are converging (you sure we aren't brothers?!?!?). i am getting done with mods too. i think m3 changed me completely. it's about just how factory tuned can means it's the best and trouble free. when there is a car from factory that can be this good, why bother with modding
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Originally Posted by rominl
oh i am not taking away their credit on that at all. i am just saying that by comparison, at least the data we have so far, the hybrid is still heavier than the v8. but maybe in a few months, lexus will debut the gsh with new batteries and other surprises!!!

lol mike i guess we are converging (you sure we aren't brothers?!?!?). i am getting done with mods too. i think m3 changed me completely. it's about just how factory tuned can means it's the best and trouble free. when there is a car from factory that can be this good, why bother with modding
So your're going to sell me the bbk and the M3?
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
So your're going to sell me the bbk and the M3?
you don't want my m3, mike, trust me

i am still very very very much thinking hard about parting out my gs350 and just drive it stock. i am NOT kidding about it. put it this way, if i know for sure all the parts will be spoken for like that, i might just do it. a few items i know i have a list of people waiting already @_@
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I found the following piece of information on the official European Lexus site (www.lexus.eu)

Current GS450h, mid-range acceleration, with 50 to 75 mph taking 4.7 seconds
New GS350, mid-range acceleration, with 50 to 75 mph taking just 4.4 seconds
Old 08-21-11, 02:58 AM
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damn 4GS is all looks then!
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People who buy the 6 cylinder versions are always going for looks, style and functionality more than performance, and they make up the vast majority of sales. The 4GS has much better driving dynamics than the previous GS in magazine test, plus the new features and technologies, so it's a good sign.

I do believe they will probably up the power in subsequent years, and that's not unusual at all in other brands too ....
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I don't know if anyone notice, but the rev limit on the 350 was raised from 6200 rpm to 6400pm and the torque at 4800 rpm instead of 3600.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Lexus is trying to hold the weight down where everyone else isn't. That should be commended. It should be blasted, isn't this what people and the media always ask for? Lighter cars? So Lexus does it and its not important or not great?
it IS great, and whether media trumpets it may not matter, because lighter weight matters in more objective things too... fuel economy and handling, so lexus may have the last laugh even if media doesn't recognize their specific efforts to drop weight.

lexus, you done good.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
If I got a BMW it would be a manual, period. To me that is the entire point of a BMW, they offer manuals and Lexus and others don't.
Ha ha, an old school 6 speed manual fan. Totally respect your opinion, but BMW's DCT is pretty amazing, as well as the Speedshift MCT found in the recent AMG models.


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