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Old 08-06-12, 06:01 PM
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i notice that when i brake the 06 gs 300 when i come to stop, the steering wheel goes to left or right, i tried to brake everytime when i come to a stop light or slow down maybe then the steering wheel goes to left or right, and another issue is that the steering wheel seems to be harden a bit,

it's dangerous

any advise

thanks
Old 08-06-12, 06:23 PM
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Sorry Kenny, you're not making a lot of sense.
When you brake - hard or gradually alike - your steering wheel jerks left or right?
Is this a recent development or something gradually getting worse over the last lot of weeks/months?

If not wheel alignment or balance, then sounds a lot like discs are warped.
When was the last time you checked or had them checked for run-out and thickness?
They may be skimmable, but equally they may need simply replaced with new ones, in which case you'd be better to change the pads, unless there's still plenty on them.

I'm not quite grasping what you're trying to say about steering wheel "hardening" - do you mean stiff to turn?
If so, then maybe the two are connected, and it's not the brakes after all, but the steering servo/motor.
If that's the case, then I'd expect a fault code to be logged if a steering sensor is fitted in our cars.
Old 08-07-12, 04:24 PM
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I've actually had the same issue. I don't know any other way to explain it though either, other than when I brake, especially if it's a decently hard brake for a light I can't get through at the last minute the car will pull (I want to say typically to the right). My friend even drove the car once to pick up someone up and told me the same thing when he got back. I've noticed it ever since I got the car. I don't know if it's related or not but I also hear some clicking noises when I initially drive my car and turn, but they tend to go away after a minute.

I'd also appreciate any suggestions as to what this might be -- thanks!
Old 08-07-12, 05:36 PM
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One of the brake calipers might be seized causing a pull to a side when braking
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i had new front brake pads and rotors a month ago, even before it happened the same
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steering wheel is harden when i turn, like when u turn other cars, it's easy and flexible,
when you drive 2 vehicles, i can tell my steering wheel is harden to turn then my other rx330
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Maybe a brake fluid flush?
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Check tire pressure and check shocks for leakage. Could have a blown shock, bad tires, need an alignment, etc.
Old 08-07-12, 08:49 PM
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I would say check the calipers. One could be dragging or not clamping as hard as the other.
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Absolutely check the brake calipers.

If it pulls to the right under hard braking, the left caliper isn't grabbing. If it pulls to the left, the right caliper isn't grabbing.
Old 08-07-12, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rld14
Absolutely check the brake calipers.

If it pulls to the right under hard braking, the left caliper isn't grabbing. If it pulls to the left, the right caliper isn't grabbing.
I think you've got it backwards..... try stopping the right wheel of a wheelchair and let the left go cloose, it will steer to the right.

All in all, ALL of your calipers should be checked, to reassure yourself the calipers are working 100% (as witnessed on a few cars i've fixed), check the wear and tear on the brake pads.... whomever changed your pads should have checked them to make sure there is even wear throughout.
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So I brought my car in to the dealership for a routine 65000 mile service and go figure, the rear calipers are bad. Fortunately they're covered under my extended warranty but just thought I'd mention it. Sounds like you guys were right! Hope that does the trick.
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i brought the car to my local mechanic, he test drive it, and my tires are worn not evenly, so he suggests to replace them, and aligment then the car would be fine, i asked the calibers, he said if issues with calibers, then when you brake at normal speed, the car would go to left or right, so iam happy the issue dues to the tires, but nothing else
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