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Is there a consensus on F-Sport Sway Bars?

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Old 03-12-13, 04:42 PM
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Oh, on the color - silver is a fav family color. I think we have 8 silver cars in our immediate family. You can't go wrong with silver. My Ford F-150 4x4 is black & silver, as are both of my Harley's.



But somehow, while I love silver on a Cayman, I prefer a dark metallic grey on it as my first choice.

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Default Question on F-Sport sways re: ride change

This question has been addressed to some extent, but I'd appreciate any input that could add more info on the effect of the F-Sport sways on the ride. We all know that the car will react to quick turns by staying much flatter, and the steering being much more responsive in feel.

I know that technically, on smooth roads, the actual ride will not be affected where the left tires and right tires are encountering the same rises and falls. The arms on the bars on left and right will be moving up and down simultaneously = no effect on ride.

But, where the road undulations are different on the left and right, the sway arms will not be moving together, but one side will be resisting movement, resulting in effect of an additional spring coming into play. Thus the ride will be stiffer than stock sways when encountering bumps on one side that are not on the other side.

So the real question is, how much stiffer is the ride when encountering surfaces where the left and right sides are different? I know this will be difficult to describe, but I'd love any feedback anyone can give that is using the F-Sport sways....

TIA,

gn




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Originally Posted by gatornappe
This question has been addressed to some extent, but I'd appreciate any input that could add more info on the effect of the F-Sport sways on the ride. We all know that the car will react to quick turns by staying much flatter, and the steering being much more responsive in feel.

I know that technically, on smooth roads, the actual ride will not be affected where the left tires and right tires are encountering the same rises and falls. The arms on the bars on left and right will be moving up and down simultaneously = no effect on ride.

But, where the road undulations are different on the left and right, the sway arms will not be moving together, but one side will be resisting movement, resulting in effect of an additional spring coming into play. Thus the ride will be stiffer than stock sways when encountering bumps on one side that are not on the other side.

So the real question is, how much stiffer is the ride when encountering surfaces where the left and right sides are different? I know this will be difficult to describe, but I'd love any feedback anyone can give that is using the F-Sport sways....

TIA,

gn




I've had the F-Sport sways on my '06 GS430 for a while now and did not notice ANY difference in the ride under normal conditions. The change (improvement) is only noticeable during moderate or hard cornering and at those points, the car feels much more controlled and confident. It's still a Lexus and doesn't feel "tuned" at all, just a sharper cornering vehicle and as I stated nearly a year ago, it's how the car should have been delivered from the factory.
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How much are the sway bars? Are you guys purchasing at the dealer or online?

Ordering some RCA blocks and looks like people say getting the sway bars with them is a great route for AWD.
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Originally Posted by twylie
I've had the F-Sport sways on my '06 GS430 for a while now and did not notice ANY difference in the ride under normal conditions. The change (improvement) is only noticeable during moderate or hard cornering and at those points, the car feels much more controlled and confident. It's still a Lexus and doesn't feel "tuned" at all, just a sharper cornering vehicle and as I stated nearly a year ago, it's how the car should have been delivered from the factory.
Thank Twilie - you sealed it. Ordering sways Thursday, putting them in Sat. Dealer parts guy said one day shipping to him.

Can't wait........

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Originally Posted by vadimo
How much are the sway bars? Are you guys purchasing at the dealer or online?

Ordering some RCA blocks and looks like people say getting the sway bars with them is a great route for AWD.
Going through dealer: $500.00. Much less than I was expecting from Lexus. Was expecting $750 - $1,000. knowing how they rip you on everything.

Might find after-market for less, but these are proven, factory designed, with too many rave reviews.
Yeah, they had a bushing design problem at first, but it appears that they've solved that.

Not a bad investment for what you get.

I'd love some of the new LED lights on the front, but hey, $2,500 is ridiculous for looks.
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Originally Posted by vadimo
How much are the sway bars? Are you guys purchasing at the dealer or online?

Ordering some RCA blocks and looks like people say getting the sway bars with them is a great route for AWD.
I purchased mine from Sewell for $381.50 + shipping. Be sure to register as a CL member before placing the order for a significant discount (normal price is $495).

http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2009/2889.html
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Originally Posted by anthrax144
I purchased mine from Sewell for $381.50 + shipping. Be sure to register as a CL member before placing the order for a significant discount (normal price is $495).

http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2009/2889.html
Anthrax - 'YOU DA MAN!' THANKS! wonder how much shipping to Virginia will be.....checking to see where Sewell is........

Muchly appreciated........
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Originally Posted by gatornappe
Anthrax - 'YOU DA MAN!' THANKS! wonder how much shipping to Virginia will be.....checking to see where Sewell is........

Muchly appreciated........
Shipping to WA was $35. Overall, still much cheaper than purchasing at the stealership. I'll be installing mine this weekend.
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Originally Posted by anthrax144
Shipping to WA was $35. Overall, still much cheaper than purchasing at the stealership. I'll be installing mine this weekend.
Where is Sewell located?

Can't wait to hear a full review once you've got them installed.....

gn
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Originally Posted by anthrax144
I purchased mine from Sewell for $381.50 + shipping. Be sure to register as a CL member before placing the order for a significant discount (normal price is $495).

http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2009/2889.html
Anthrax -

Cannot find where to register as a CL member on their website......can you point me to where I can do that?

Thanks!

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Found them. Dallas.


Originally Posted by gatornappe
Where is Sewell located?

Can't wait to hear a full review once you've got them installed.....

gn
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Originally Posted by gatornappe
This question has been addressed to some extent, but I'd appreciate any input that could add more info on the effect of the F-Sport sways on the ride. We all know that the car will react to quick turns by staying much flatter, and the steering being much more responsive in feel.

I know that technically, on smooth roads, the actual ride will not be affected where the left tires and right tires are encountering the same rises and falls. The arms on the bars on left and right will be moving up and down simultaneously = no effect on ride.

But, where the road undulations are different on the left and right, the sway arms will not be moving together, but one side will be resisting movement, resulting in effect of an additional spring coming into play. Thus the ride will be stiffer than stock sways when encountering bumps on one side that are not on the other side.

So the real question is, how much stiffer is the ride when encountering surfaces where the left and right sides are different? I know this will be difficult to describe, but I'd love any feedback anyone can give that is using the F-Sport sways....

TIA,

gn




I answered this on the first page.

You will notice it on things like cobblestone roads. It will bounce you around a little bit, but it's not too bad. Kind of entertaining in a way. Otherwise, you will not really notice it under normal driving. When you push it harder around corners, you will feel the difference from stock. But I just felt I had to restate that there will be some left-right undulation on uneven surfaces.

There is a little bit of squeaking on large speed bumps. I may need to tighten up the bolts. It's been several years since I installed them. No squeaking on flat surfaces though. Yes, I do have the updated bushings.
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Originally Posted by anthrax144
I purchased mine from Sewell for $381.50 + shipping. Be sure to register as a CL member before placing the order for a significant discount (normal price is $495).

http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2009/2889.html
Found how to get registered as ClubLexus member....thanks! Done.

Ordering tomorrow......
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thanks, jre - yes, I read that, just looking for all the info I can get.

ordering tomorrow from Sewill Lexus in Dallas......


Originally Posted by jre002
I answered this on the first page.

You will notice it on things like cobblestone roads. It will bounce you around a little bit, but it's not too bad. Kind of entertaining in a way. Otherwise, you will not really notice it under normal driving. When you push it harder around corners, you will feel the difference from stock. But I just felt I had to restate that there will be some left-right undulation on uneven surfaces.

There is a little bit of squeaking on large speed bumps. I may need to tighten up the bolts. It's been several years since I installed them. No squeaking on flat surfaces though. Yes, I do have the updated bushings.


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