GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005) Discussion about the second generation GS300, GS400 and GS430 (1998 - 2005)

Problems starting car after refueling...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-17-12, 02:34 PM
  #1  
static88
Rookie
Thread Starter
 
static88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: FL - Florida
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Problems starting car after refueling...

Ok, im a little irritated about this issue. I have an 04GS300 with a GTE swap. After i refuel my car, while still at the gas station, I have to crank and hold the key while repeatedly pressing the gas pedal and almost flooding the motor to get it to start. Also, if i dont raise the rpms to about 1200 and shift the car into gear immediately after successfully starting the car, it'll cut off and I have to do it all over again. It only does this right after refueling. Any other time, it starts the first time around with no issues. Has anyone else had this issue? if anyone can help, id really appreciate it...
Old 10-17-12, 03:19 PM
  #2  
Mr Jokster
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr Jokster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
Posts: 6,466
Received 88 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

We're not in the '50's. Why are you pumping your throttle? That does nothing. If your engine is flooding (you smell it right), its because its not igniting. You probably have a fuel pump problem.
Old 10-17-12, 03:23 PM
  #3  
SC400slide
In Recovery Mode

iTrader: (11)
 
SC400slide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NM
Posts: 3,868
Received 33 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Sounds like a fuel pump problem
Old 10-17-12, 03:45 PM
  #4  
static88
Rookie
Thread Starter
 
static88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: FL - Florida
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

@Mr Jokster: pumping the throttle is the only way the car starts after refueling. its the only time it does that. i dont wait till its low on gas to refuel, and it still does that.
Old 10-17-12, 05:28 PM
  #5  
Mr Jokster
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (8)
 
Mr Jokster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
Posts: 6,466
Received 88 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

Our cars are fuel injected, not carborated. pumping throttle ONLY opens and closes the throttle body, no electronics involved. Its purely coincidence.
Old 10-17-12, 05:58 PM
  #6  
jcat_350
Lexus Champion

 
jcat_350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: RI
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

sounds like fuel pump...if the fuel pump is good, the fact that it's right after refueling would then lead me to evap system.

however, the fact that you need to put the engine under load to keep her running again points back to fuel pump.

For ****s and giggles...whens the last time you did a fuel filter?
Old 10-17-12, 06:31 PM
  #7  
kdick91
Driver
 
kdick91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: TX
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mr Jokster
We're not in the '50's. Why are you pumping your throttle? That does nothing. If your engine is flooding (you smell it right), its because its not igniting. You probably have a fuel pump problem.
When the car detects the throttle above a certain percentage (I always set it at 70% on the cars I tune) during cranking it does what it calls a "flood clear". Makes perfect sense to me. It's an option in all the tuning software I have used.
Old 10-21-12, 04:06 PM
  #8  
diagtime
Pole Position
 
diagtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

jcat was onto something with the evap system. i suspect flooded charcoal canister.

However, i have no idea what parts of the evap system you have hooked up with the GTE swap. I'd say next time you fuel it up, pinch off the evap Purge line and see if it starts normally. The purge shouldn't really be turned on when you first fire it up but with the swap, I don't really know what's going on. But i do know that evap problems can cause things very similar to this.
Old 01-19-24, 02:31 PM
  #9  
naluloa
Pit Crew
 
naluloa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 166
Received 36 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kdick91
When the car detects the throttle above a certain percentage (I always set it at 70% on the cars I tune) during cranking it does what it calls a "flood clear". Makes perfect sense to me. It's an option in all the tuning software I have used.
I have the same issue on my GS400 and from what it sounds like, a stuck open EVAP purge valve is causing vapors to create a flood condition in my engine, and the only way to brute-force through it is to clear the flood condition by pressing the accelerator all the way down before starting?

I will also be replacing my EVAP valves in the meantime.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
makugx
ES - 1st to 4th Gen (1990-2006)
3
07-18-13 12:17 PM
j2b4o
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
5
07-09-12 01:15 PM
YWW
GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005)
4
08-30-10 07:46 PM
spxChrome
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
5
11-29-04 03:25 PM



Quick Reply: Problems starting car after refueling...



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:27 AM.