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Why the heck did Lexus make the gs300?

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Old 08-28-12, 10:43 AM
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You have to remember the world market is geared more for lower displacement engines, and it's mainly in the U.S. that bigger displacement engines are sought after, and even then, not as much as lower displacement engines.
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Because racecar?
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Because 4 door supra.
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Originally Posted by Lexusfam
The GS did not comptete with a TL or an I30/35. They're not even in the same class or price range.
They did and do compete with the MB and BMW. Infinity did not compete with the GS until the M45 came out.
Infiniti I35 and Acura TL both were in direct competition with the GS300. This is the entry level midsize luxury sedan category. Each had V6 engines with similar amounts of horsepower. They WERE not ARE in the same class. Granted Lexus out sold them both, but they were all in the same class. Research............
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Old 08-28-12, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by repugnante
hmmmm, I think you are in denial. The Q45 only had more hp from 02+ though the 430 would still take that model as well
Denial over what lol??? If I wanted to buy a V8, I easily could've. I simpily didn't want the V8. Even knowing what I know now, I still wouldn't buy the V8. The wood wheel is the only thing I really like...well the 17" rims too, but I was able to buy those from a member here lol. Please don't try to lecture me about the Q45's or any Infiniti model. I've been driving Infiniti models for a looonnggg time, so there isn't anything you can tell me that I don't know.

Honestly, I don't care which car can take who. The GS should be quicker off the line sice the Q45 was a much heavier car; but this is something I clearly don't want to debate. As stated in my first post, I don't race cars at stop lights or interstate...only childish idiots do that. If you want to race, go rent out a track!
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Old 08-28-12, 11:30 AM
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^ I've owned 8 Infiniti's in my lifetime. 266 hp V8's do not compete. The overrated Q45 when Infiniti lied that it had 345, never competed either. Just sayin
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Old 08-28-12, 11:32 AM
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everything you guys are stating is right
But i think i know what OP is trying to say,
heck after owning my gs for almost a year , i drove a buddys 400, AND I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION!
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Old 08-28-12, 11:47 AM
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Because it is the perfect platform for an Aristo swap
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Old 08-28-12, 11:54 AM
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Well from what i know back than in the euro scene, they only had made the gs300. no 400 or 430. but they did introduce the ls400. the ls400 was more of a luxury car. but mind you they made the gs to compete with the jaguars and the mercedes. and yes the gs300 was a more economical car that still moves! not to mention the famous engine lol
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Old 08-28-12, 12:03 PM
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Old 08-28-12, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by repugnante
Infiniti I35 and Acura TL both were in direct competition with the GS300. This is the entry level midsize luxury sedan category.
The GS is not an entry level car, it never was. The ES competed with the FWD I35 and TL. The GS was significantly more expensive, RWD. The GS competed with the M45 from Infiniti (once they built it) as well as the 5 series BMW and E Class Mercedes.

Originally Posted by YaKuZa_GS
When Toyota first introduced these cars to the North American market they had to rebrand them because nobody would take Toyota as a luxury brand. So then came along Lexus. At this point they introduced their first line up of ES/SC/GS/LS.
Actually no, when Toyota introduced Lexus they had only the LS and ES. The GS & SC didn't come along until 1992 for the SC and 1993 for the GS.

The reason they made the GS300 was to compete with the 5 series and E class. Both of those models came in 6cyl and 8cyl variants. The addition of the 8 in 1998 was to move the car upmarket so it would compete with those models more directly.

As of 2013 the V8 has been dropped in the GS due to very slow sales. Hell...the 528 is a 4 now. Times are changin.
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Originally Posted by repugnante
^ I've owned 8 Infiniti's in my lifetime. 266 hp V8's do not compete. The overrated Q45 when Infiniti lied that it had 345, never competed either. Just sayin
You are right about the 266, simple math will tell you that (266 < 300), which was stupid based on the weight of that model. As far as the 340 not 345 hp motor, I have to disagree. What you said is your opinion, but it's very far from the truth. It's the same motor they were putting in the old and new M45 models. Great motor, was very strong, the downside is that it burned a lot of oil. Design defect because they used low tension rings on the pistons to squeeze extra hp out of that motor. Other than that, it is a great motor and pushed every bit of 340 HP out. If it didn' please provide proof to back up your statement. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, but I need to view your proof first.
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Originally Posted by repugnante
Infiniti I35 and Acura TL both were in direct competition with the GS300. This is the entry level midsize luxury sedan category. Each had V6 engines with similar amounts of horsepower. They WERE not ARE in the same class. Granted Lexus out sold them both, but they were all in the same class. Research............
COMPLETELY WRONG...beyond wrong. After reading this, ummm nevermind.
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
The GS is not an entry level car, it never was. The ES competed with the FWD I35 and TL. The GS was significantly more expensive, RWD. The GS competed with the M45 from Infiniti (once they built it) as well as the 5 series BMW and E Class Mercedes.



Actually no, when Toyota introduced Lexus they had only the LS and ES. The GS & SC didn't come along until 1992 for the SC and 1993 for the GS.

The reason they made the GS300 was to compete with the 5 series and E class. Both of those models came in 6cyl and 8cyl variants. The addition of the 8 in 1998 was to move the car upmarket so it would compete with those models more directly.

As of 2013 the V8 has been dropped in the GS due to very slow sales. Hell...the 528 is a 4 now. Times are changin.
Yup...Exactly.
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Originally Posted by repugnante
Infiniti I35 and Acura TL both were in direct competition with the GS300. This is the entry level midsize luxury sedan category. Each had V6 engines with similar amounts of horsepower. They WERE not ARE in the same class. Granted Lexus out sold them both, but they were all in the same class. Research............
You need to rethink your source where you got this information from.
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