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Old 10-15-11, 02:49 PM
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Are there specific items I should be looking for when buying HID kits? There are the new "slim" ones. 55w, 25w, 100w ones. Color, I'm set on 8000. I'm most interested in lumen output. Brightest they can be. Keeping in mind that 6000 Kelvin is the brightest and 12000 Kelvin (purple) has very low output, 8000 is bright enough and not so blue (10000) that looks rice.

Suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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brightest would be 4300k Osram or Philips.
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Lumen output? (I'm looking for a specific number.) Thanks.
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8000 = Blue Rice
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Originally Posted by ****-adkt
8000 = Blue Rice
So are 6000 what we have stock?
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Originally Posted by CTGS
So are 6000 what we have stock?
I think stock is close to 4000k -4300K

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I have stock ones with green tint, to tell you the truth, they really aren't all that bright. I am gonna buy a 5000 50w kit and see how that lights up the road.
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Originally Posted by jeepandlex
I have stock ones with green tint, to tell you the truth, they really aren't all that bright. I am gonna buy a 5000 50w kit and see how that lights up the road.
5000 is less output...WTF is wrong with you people learn to educate yourselves.. 50Watt? your running stock OEM ballast correct? your gonna remove them to install a 50w kit?
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Originally Posted by GINTER
Are there specific items I should be looking for when buying HID kits? There are the new "slim" ones. 55w, 25w, 100w ones. Color, I'm set on 8000. I'm most interested in lumen output. Brightest they can be. Keeping in mind that 6000 Kelvin is the brightest and 12000 Kelvin (purple) has very low output, 8000 is bright enough and not so blue (10000) that looks rice.

Suggestions? Thanks in advance.
You ARE talking about replacing the D2R factory HID bulb in a OEM HID Auto-Leveling equipped GS correct?

And to verify you are not looking into shoving some re-based bulbs into a NON-OEM-HID housing are you?! I sure hope not.

As long as you are already stock OEM-HID then you can get some OSRAM or PHILIPS bulbs, 4300k is the highest output, 5000k Crystalvision Philips would be the next step up (in color temp) and are pure white, this is what I am running and love them.. Any higher in Kelvin and you are dropping output even though your eye may perceive brighter, no matter what any random hid bulb maker claims of their bulbs of higher ranges.

As for ballasts the stock ones are the most reliable, and I would just keep them. 35w is the most common and most bulbs are designed for 35w, there alot of 50w/55w ballasts out there now, and that is the max you even think about using. The 55w ballasts are just overdriving the 35w bulbs and will shorten the lifespan and they will burn a bit hotter as well. Although bulbs are so cheap these days it's not much a concern if they only last 2-3years instead of 4/5/6 years.

Retrofit Source now has their 55w specific Morimoto Bulbs designed to handle their 55w ballasts. They are D2S only though.

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Originally Posted by ****-adkt
Yes.. I think stock is close to 4000k -4300K
I'm not sure what bulbs I have in my car but they have a really light blueish tint to them, also when I'm driving at night other drivers flash there high beams at me...
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Originally Posted by CTGS
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I'm not sure what bulbs I have in my car but they have a really light blueish tint to them, also when I'm driving at night other drivers flash there high beams at me...
Do you have OEM HID headlight housings or HID bulbs swapped in a NON-Hid housings?
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Originally Posted by jeepandlex
I have stock ones with green tint, to tell you the truth, they really aren't all that bright. I am gonna buy a 5000 50w kit and see how that lights up the road.
If you're still using the original bulbs, then that is your problem. Light output decreases with age. If you put in brand new (OEM) bulbs, they'll be much brighter, but they're also more yellow for the first ~100 hours.
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Originally Posted by 99 GS3
Do you have OEM HID headlight housings or HID bulbs swapped in a NON-Hid housings?
It's a 2002 gs300 and I haven't replaced the bulbs, the headlight housings need to be polished so I beleive they are the original ones....
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Originally Posted by 99 GS3
You ARE talking about replacing the D2R factory HID bulb in a OEM HID Auto-Leveling equipped GS correct?

And to verify you are not looking into shoving some re-based bulbs into a NON-OEM-HID housing are you?! I sure hope not.

As long as you are already stock OEM-HID then you can get some OSRAM or PHILIPS bulbs, 4300k is the highest output, 5000k Crystalvision Philips would be the next step up and are pure white, this is what I am running and love them.. Any higher in Kelvin and you are dropping output even though your eye may perceive brighter, no matter what any random hid bulb maker claims of their bulbs of higher ranges.

As for ballasts the stock ones are the most reliable, and I would just keep them. 35w is the most common and most bulbs are designed for 35w, there alot of 50w/55w ballasts out there now, and that is the max you even think about using. The 55w ballasts are just overdriving the 35w bulbs and will shorten the lifespan and they will burn a bit hotter as well. Although bulbs are so cheap these days it's not much a concern if they only last 2-3years instead of 4/5/6 years.

Retrofit Source now has their 55w specific Morimoto Bulbs designed to handle their 55w ballasts. They are D2S only though.
I'm installing aftermarket HID lights in the original 98 GS, that came w/o HID in the first place. I was planning on installing low, high, and fog lights.
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Originally Posted by GINTER
I'm installing aftermarket HID lights in the original 98 GS, that came w/o HID in the first place. I was planning on installing low, high, and fog lights.
Please refrain from putting hid bulbs in the stock non-hid low beam bowls. The pattern and glare is terrible and your just causing a nuisance to the opposing drivers on the road. Although your eye will perceive it as brighter you really aren't seeing better. I understand if your not in for a full retrofit, but you should just run some silverstar or piaa halogen bulbs which can be had with a whiter look and actually will put out better lighing. Or get the HID low beam bowls from a HID-GS and install them in your housings and use the proper D2R hid bulb.

The high's and lows are not such a big deal, since the high's shouldn't be on with oncoming traffic anyway, and the fogs cut-off pretty low..

HID bulbs and Halogen bulbs have different focal points, and they way they disperse light is different. This is why they will not reflect properly in a non-hid bowl.

If you are not a member of hidplanet you should defiantly catch up on the site..

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/cont...b-Crash-Course


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