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Old 05-02-11, 12:03 AM
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this is a McGuard wheel lock. I tigtened it at 80 ft lbs torque. stock calls for 76. the other day, i was trying to loosen it to take pics of my suspension for sale and it snapped. the pattern from the key is stock in the grooves of the wheel lock. i tried hammering a tight socket in there and used an air gun to loosen it but it doesnt grab. any body got tips of removing this type lug nut without damaging the wheel? i already have a replacement wheel and lock. thanks!

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Same thing happen to me, What I did was that take it to Sears Auto Center to get it removed without breaking the strut. It cost me 5 bucks

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Originally Posted by sikkwidit
Same thing happen to me, What I did was that take it to Sears Auto Center to get it removed without breaking the strut. It cost me 5 bucks
i nees to take it to a shop for sure. i ran out of options with the tools i have at home. do you happen to know how they did it?
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You can easily do it yourself. Go buy a 6 point socket and just hammer it in.
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^this!
but I went to sears also..happened to me on 3 of the stockies lol!
those things suck!

are u using OEM lugs on your works???!!!
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Originally Posted by GS4_Fiend
You can easily do it yourself. Go buy a 6 point socket and just hammer it in.
i tried that and i even used an impact gun to loosen, but still no luck.

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^this!
but I went to sears also..happened to me on 3 of the stockies lol!
those things suck!

are u using OEM lugs on your works???!!!
thanks! i'll check out sears today after work. those are McGuards but not the oem ones. the other 4 lug nuts are the spline drive.
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Something tells me your torque wrench is not accurate What a totally $hi++y situation though. I'm sure a service shop can come up with something to help get those off. I quit using wheel locks years ago due to problems like this. To a professional wheel thief, they are ineffective anyway. I'd say having spline drives on all 5 would be just as much of a deterrent to the average amateur thief.
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I work for a dodge dealership and I see this pretty often. Mostly in our lube department. We use and air hammer and a chisel bit. Start by making a notch on the edge. Then put the bit in the notch point the air hammer in the direction you wanting to go and it will force it to turn. Thats how all the shops I've worked at do it.
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as gs4 said hammer in a wheel lock and then unscrew it from there. Thats how i got mines out. wheel shops should be able to do it too
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Snap-on has an actual socket to get those things off within a matter of seconds, and gs4 fiend's idea works well too
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Napa sells the tool to back out broken/striped locks.

I got mine off by hammering a slightly smaller socket over the lock lugs. If it didnt work the first time, go with a even smaller socket.

The guy that put the tires on put almost 100lbs on them. So your 80lbs shouldnt be too tough to break loose.
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Originally Posted by 98Gs4001UZ
I work for a dodge dealership and I see this pretty often. Mostly in our lube department. We use and air hammer and a chisel bit. Start by making a notch on the edge. Then put the bit in the notch point the air hammer in the direction you wanting to go and it will force it to turn. Thats how all the shops I've worked at do it.
i use this method too
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Originally Posted by 808_GS400
i tried that and i even used an impact gun to loosen, but still no luck.


thanks! i'll check out sears today after work. those are McGuards but not the oem ones. the other 4 lug nuts are the spline drive.
It will only work if you hammer it in at least 75% or more, all the way.
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I hammered on a 19mm 12 point socket and then used an impact gun. I had the same problem as you.
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Use a smaller socket like you tried, but use an impact gun socket. They are usually darker colored sockets. Not chrome. They are more durable.


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