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Old 02-26-10, 01:25 AM
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Default HELP ASAP A/C Problem!!!

Well I tried doing a search but still cant find any reliable answers...I have a 1999 GS400 runs strong but the A/C system is bad..It only blows HOT AIR out of all vents..the compressor turns on and off normally and the air blows out strong just HOT!!!..I checked for a any leaks but couldn't find anything...the mechanic showed me that I had a low psi reading of 60psi...and that there was no resistance on the compressor(turning it with hand)...what do you think it is?
Just want to make sure before I go ahead and have him replace the compressor,cluth,drier,o-ring..etc..thanks
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got the codes?
Turn the ignition on while pressing AUTO and FRESH/RECIRC. The codes will be displayed in temperature display. Post them here and we'll see.
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thanks for the advice..it says code 21,24...
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It's not the air mixer servo is it?

The little door thing that mixes the air so it comes out at the right temperature.
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Your mechanic should do a leak down test of the system. And then recharge it.
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21, 24 is normal when dark. 60 psi is enough for A/C to work, but it's a bit low for it to work efficiently. I agree with Infamous - leak test & recharge & check if that helps.
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Originally Posted by Matt2828
It's not the air mixer servo is it?

The little door thing that mixes the air so it comes out at the right temperature.
My money's on this....

People, he says the air is HOT. Think about it....
Old 02-26-10, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ydjy
got the codes?
Turn the ignition on while pressing AUTO and FRESH/RECIRC. The codes will be displayed in temperature display. Post them here and we'll see.
wont show codes if he's low or the system isnt charged right

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thanks for the advice..it says code 21,24...
those are solar codes, meaning you did this at night, in the garage or whatever and there wasnt enough light on the sensors. ignore those codes

Originally Posted by Matt2828
It's not the air mixer servo is it?

The little door thing that mixes the air so it comes out at the right temperature.
probably not, typically the servos involve the heat mixture. they dont or i havent seen them to fail on the cold side of them.....i

Originally Posted by ydjy
21, 24 is normal when dark. 60 psi is enough for A/C to work, but it's a bit low for it to work efficiently. I agree with Infamous - leak test & recharge & check if that helps.
ACTUALLY around 60 is actually normal on a car if its r-134 depending on the outside temps that day. what is your high side pressure? it should be under 180.

what did he say he thinks it is?
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Originally Posted by sakataj
wont show codes if he's low or the system isnt charged right



those are solar codes, meaning you did this at night, in the garage or whatever and there wasnt enough light on the sensors. ignore those codes



probably not, typically the servos involve the heat mixture. they dont or i havent seen them to fail on the cold side of them.....i



ACTUALLY around 60 is actually normal on a car if its r-134 depending on the outside temps that day. what is your high side pressure? it should be under 180.

what did he say he thinks it is?
his air mix servo is stuck. Its always on full hot, no matter what he does. It won't even blow ambient air.

also, he's got enough refrigerant and his compressor isn't seized.
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There are two air mix servos - driver's and passenger's. Stuck servo should throw 41 (passenger's side) or 46 (driver's side) error code. I think it's unlikely that both of them fail and no error is displayed.
I'd try replacing the control panel with a known good first, then if that doesn't help I'd rip the air box apart to see what's going on there.
Edit: you can also try entering the actuator check mode: first enter diagnostic mode as described before; wait until error codes are displayed; press R/F - the temperature display should cycle through numbers 0 - 9 now. Using driver side temp switch set the display to 3. If you have freezing air now, it's the temperature sensors. If you have ambient, it's the compressor; if it's still hot, it's either the panel or the air box.

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Originally Posted by sivikvtec
his air mix servo is stuck. Its always on full hot, no matter what he does. It won't even blow ambient air.

also, he's got enough refrigerant and his compressor isn't seized.
oops, i missed it where he said it ONLY blows hot air, good catch. although i did say he had enough refrigerant

Originally Posted by ydjy
There are two air mix servos - driver's and passenger's. Stuck servo should throw 41 (passenger's side) or 46 (driver's side) error code. I think it's unlikely that both of them fail and no error is displayed.
I'd try replacing the control panel with a known good first, then if that doesn't help I'd rip the air box apart to see what's going on there.
Edit: you can also try entering the actuator check mode: first enter diagnostic mode as described before; wait until error codes are displayed; press R/F - the temperature display should cycle through numbers 0 - 9 now. Using driver side temp switch set the display to 3. If you have freezing air now, it's the temperature sensors. If you have ambient, it's the compressor; if it's still hot, it's either the panel or the air box.
actually there are 4 servos, 3 on passenger side.....mode, temp, and air recirculation and one on drivers side....temp

i did a write up on how to change them check my posts
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update...I spoke with this member....it happened to be his compressor....OUCH!! Costed him over $1K to fix.
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whao.. i only paid 140 for my compressor! is that all it was? but my shi still aint blowing cold!
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uhm. So it wasn't hot air after all.
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