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Old 11-07-04, 11:33 PM
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I'm thinking of whether I should go with a fat setup (245/40/19; 275/35/19) or (245/35/19; 275/30/19)
I know having the fat setup is less worries since you dont have to drop as much, better ride quality, and less chance of damaging wheels....but then again....I heard that having 19s with fat setup....the wheel itself looks smaller. why method would you choose? and sorry getting 20s in hawaii is not an option....the roads here in hawaii are just crappy as hell ...I agree tho....20s just look soo much better...
Old 11-07-04, 11:40 PM
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imho, yes. if i had 19s instead of 20s, i would have gotten fat setup. you are not looking for performance (that's a requirement for pimplux right? hehe), so the loss on performance isn't an issue. yes your rims would look a tad smaller, but still people can see that they are 19s. plus people would only drool on the lip size and the badge anyway, right?

and you know the roads around your area, and i have been there. you can gain from the fat setup i think
Old 11-08-04, 06:20 AM
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I just made the change and am glad that I did. Otherwise your rims will dent and it effects your handling and ride quality. I wish I had gone "fat" sooner.
Old 11-08-04, 08:25 AM
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If your rims are thin spoke, it will appear to be smaller. On the other hand if your rims are some what of a dish or semi dish like a work euroline rim, it will appear bigger. heeh
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Unless you want a more aggressive look (and all the "problems" that go along with it), I'd go fat. When I upgraded my wheels, my choices were 20s or fat 19s. I did not even consider normal 19s.
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I dont know I guess I am biased.... I do not like 20's much unless it was a VIP style type wheel w/ huge lip. Fat tire is nice to have! I dont know, I dont drive to reach top performance but I like having it... 245/40/19 and 275/35/19 for me. It looks pretty mean IMO from the rear quarter view. and I always think of seeing those vettes from the rear w/ those bad a$$ rear tires..... I can dream can't I?

some vices about fat tire.... you can't rotate tires so easily. So you'll be paying a bit for new tires. IMO I've felt more road noise and its a tad more road feel which could also be a pro pending on who you ask. Overall I like it most of the time except when I change tires.
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Originally posted by UptownGS
I dont know I guess I am biased.... I do not like 20's much unless it was a VIP style type wheel w/ huge lip. Fat tire is nice to have! I dont know, I dont drive to reach top performance but I like having it... 245/40/19 and 275/35/19 for me. It looks pretty mean IMO from the rear quarter view. and I always think of seeing those vettes from the rear w/ those bad a$$ rear tires..... I can dream can't I?

some vices about fat tire.... you can't rotate tires so easily. So you'll be paying a bit for new tires. IMO I've felt more road noise and its a tad more road feel which could also be a pro pending on who you ask. Overall I like it most of the time except when I change tires.
I assume we are talking staggered setup so how does it make it harder to rotate fat vs standard setup.
Secondly how easily will a rim really get damaged with a 285 30 or even the 275 30 in the back. I mean is it really a concern and does going to a 35 really help all that much. I'm waiting for some 19" Iforged to arrive and need to decide on tires as well thats why I have the interest.
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Originally posted by morris
I assume we are talking staggered setup so how does it make it harder to rotate fat vs standard setup.
Secondly how easily will a rim really get damaged with a 285 30 or even the 275 30 in the back. I mean is it really a concern and does going to a 35 really help all that much. I'm waiting for some 19" Iforged to arrive and need to decide on tires as well thats why I have the interest.
Well if it's staggered you can't rotate anyway. You can only flip the tires if the insides are wearing.

I'm not sure on the 285/30 but 275/30 isn't much sidewall. I have had both and the fat setup made a big difference to me. Meatier tires, more sidewall, and it just felt/rode much better to me.

Look at this thread. Pics of my setup with fat tires.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ighlight=enkei

And a closeup of the 275/35.
https://www.clublexus.com/gallery/sh...sort=1&cat=500
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Originally posted by morris
I assume we are talking staggered setup so how does it make it harder to rotate fat vs standard setup.
Secondly how easily will a rim really get damaged with a 285 30 or even the 275 30 in the back. I mean is it really a concern and does going to a 35 really help all that much. I'm waiting for some 19" Iforged to arrive and need to decide on tires as well thats why I have the interest.
with 275/30/19 in the rear I had 4 cracks in the rear drive wheel rim that needed to be welded. The fronts, every RR track or medium bump in the road that gets hit just a bit too hard will cause a dent in my Enkei 317 series rims. Since I went to the 275/35/19 I haven't heard the rim get nailed once, although every once in a while, when I turn left and get on it the tire will rub ever so slightly, but not really that big of a deal.

I have noticed a smoother ride and better handling.

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if you want looks, obviously you need to go with 20s. with the fat setup, there are many benefits ie: better ride, lessen chance of wheel damage, covers your gaps better. and looking in perspective of the overall appearance of the tires in the rear, it does look alot meaner/ muscular. what i would recommend is the that you get 19x9 in the front to stretch out the front just a tad. again it also depends on your tires, some makes are meatier.
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Originally posted by WhiteTiger
with 275/30/19 in the rear I had 4 cracks in the rear drive wheel rim that needed to be welded. The fronts, every RR track or medium bump in the road that gets hit just a bit too hard will cause a dent in my Enkei 317 series rims. Since I went to the 275/35/19 I haven't heard the rim get nailed once, although every once in a while, when I turn left and get on it the tire will rub ever so slightly, but not really that big of a deal.

I have noticed a smoother ride and better handling.
Are the Enkei's cast or forged?
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Originally posted by 400DGRZ
Well if it's staggered you can't rotate anyway. You can only flip the tires if the insides are wearing.

I'm not sure on the 285/30 but 275/30 isn't much sidewall. I have had both and the fat setup made a big difference to me. Meatier tires, more sidewall, and it just felt/rode much better to me.

Look at this thread. Pics of my setup with fat tires.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...ighlight=enkei

And a closeup of the 275/35.
https://www.clublexus.com/gallery/sh...sort=1&cat=500
The sidewall on the 275's looks right for me.

Now I just have to find some pictures of the 285 's with the 30 and 35
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I have 245-40-19 f and 275-35-19 r. I love it. The ride is smooth and the look is mean. Also have the confidence of having extra cushion. Since I got the drop I've been tossing the car around. I can't imagine doing that a lot with lower profile tires. Go fat...you'll never go back!
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I have 275/30/19 in the back and 245/35/19 in the front and have never had any problems at all. I've been driving on them for the past 3 summers and no dents at all.
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I live in the Washington DC area. The roads can be crappy as he11...especially after a snow in the winter time.

So, though 20s definitely look the best, I had to go with the fat 19s. Rims look a little smaller, but I'll take the tradeoff of the thicker sidewall, lower PSI (hence, more compliant & quieter ride), and less worrying about hitting a pothole, especially at night. And in the rain, it's even harder to spot a big pothole. Rain AND night, forget it...you're just rolling the dice. LOL

I drove my friend's Benz for a week and he has 22" (sidewall almost nonexistent, no lie)...and I have to say, I spent more time worrying about hitting a pothole than enjoying the car. I could barely relax while driving his car. That was no fun.

That experience moved me to the fat 19 setup even faster once I heard about it.

If I lived where the roads were basically smooth and/or well-taken care of, 20s all the way. Until then, fat 19s for my Lex.


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