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03-08-15, 02:32 PM
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v160 r154 w58
Looking to swap a manual in my 93 gs300 want to know which one will work better with the stock motor for now untill I have enough for a 2jzgte swap anything will help
Thinking about a 5speed for now or a v160 used but good condition
Thinking about a 5speed for now or a v160 used but good condition
03-13-15, 09:14 AM
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Sorry for the long post but I am VERY passionate about this very specific topic: when is it worth it to swap to a manual transmission in our cars?
Since it is a HUGE expense just to get the V160 trans and diff, I wouldn't recommend the V160 swap unless you have a Supra TT MKIV as a donor car since you will need basically everything from that car to get your money's worth - and while you are at it just get the motor too. I have been hunting for a totaled (t-boned) MKIV TT Supra for 5 years with no luck (owners usually want 10K+ for a totaled one).
The cheapest would be a W58 or W55 on the N/A motor.
If you are planning to go NA/T, my best recommendation is to just simply get a 1JZ/R154 motorset from a MKIII Chaser/Cresta/MKII as this would be way more economical than turboing your motor AND swapping an R154.
You can go the long way and get a JDM Aristo motor and source an R154 separately - it won't be cheap though.
Here are some prices:
W58/W55 (MKIV Supra NA or 1st Gen IS300): These trans can be found in the 400 - 800 range.
V160: Just the transmission, USED, they go for $2.1K+, sometimes reaching 6K USED. I have never seen this transmission lower than 2K. And then good luck finding the diff that goes with it. All in all, this transmission will end up costing you $5K+ with the diff. IMHO, not worth going through this unless you have the money to go all the way and do a 2J from either a MKIV or an Aristo.
R154: Market price is between 1K to 2K+
If you buy a manual 1JZ motorset this will run you about $3.2K - thats a manual trans AND a 1JZ. Yank your NA engine and sell it for 500 and that would give you some money back. the VVTi version of the 1J is also a good option but a little more expensive.
An Aristo motorset runs about $2.2K+. You can source an R154 for about $1.5K (sometimes less if you are lucky) and you got yourself a nice motorset as well.
The devil is in the details - but the most important thing about ANY project is your goal: what do you want your car to do. Is this a drift/track project? just a nice street car? VIP style? showcar?
If I was building a track car I would go the Aristo motorset + R154.
If I was building a show car I would go MKIV Supra complete swap (V160 plus everything else)
If I was building a nice street car I would go 1JZ manual motorset
If I just wanted a manual transmission on my NA, I would do a W58 from a MKIV Supra NA
For my VIP project, I am aiming to keep it auto and get a JDM 1UZ Aristo motorset
I hope my opinion helps you make the best choice for your goal and good luck with your project!
Since it is a HUGE expense just to get the V160 trans and diff, I wouldn't recommend the V160 swap unless you have a Supra TT MKIV as a donor car since you will need basically everything from that car to get your money's worth - and while you are at it just get the motor too. I have been hunting for a totaled (t-boned) MKIV TT Supra for 5 years with no luck (owners usually want 10K+ for a totaled one).
The cheapest would be a W58 or W55 on the N/A motor.
If you are planning to go NA/T, my best recommendation is to just simply get a 1JZ/R154 motorset from a MKIII Chaser/Cresta/MKII as this would be way more economical than turboing your motor AND swapping an R154.
You can go the long way and get a JDM Aristo motor and source an R154 separately - it won't be cheap though.
Here are some prices:
W58/W55 (MKIV Supra NA or 1st Gen IS300): These trans can be found in the 400 - 800 range.
V160: Just the transmission, USED, they go for $2.1K+, sometimes reaching 6K USED. I have never seen this transmission lower than 2K. And then good luck finding the diff that goes with it. All in all, this transmission will end up costing you $5K+ with the diff. IMHO, not worth going through this unless you have the money to go all the way and do a 2J from either a MKIV or an Aristo.
R154: Market price is between 1K to 2K+
If you buy a manual 1JZ motorset this will run you about $3.2K - thats a manual trans AND a 1JZ. Yank your NA engine and sell it for 500 and that would give you some money back. the VVTi version of the 1J is also a good option but a little more expensive.
An Aristo motorset runs about $2.2K+. You can source an R154 for about $1.5K (sometimes less if you are lucky) and you got yourself a nice motorset as well.
The devil is in the details - but the most important thing about ANY project is your goal: what do you want your car to do. Is this a drift/track project? just a nice street car? VIP style? showcar?
If I was building a track car I would go the Aristo motorset + R154.
If I was building a show car I would go MKIV Supra complete swap (V160 plus everything else)
If I was building a nice street car I would go 1JZ manual motorset
If I just wanted a manual transmission on my NA, I would do a W58 from a MKIV Supra NA
For my VIP project, I am aiming to keep it auto and get a JDM 1UZ Aristo motorset
I hope my opinion helps you make the best choice for your goal and good luck with your project!
03-13-15, 08:25 PM
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Very nice and detailed post!
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Thank you kidzik007 that was really helpful I ended up getting a lexus sc300 5speed I daily it now the gs has been on hold for now
I would like a fast daily thinking but not gonna swap a motor yet maybe a cheap fast way for now n go NA-T but would like to weld the diff so I can get "sideways" also I have concern about my gear ratio when im 65mph my rpm is at 5k n at 100 mph its at 8k wierd out by that dont know if thats normal
I would like a fast daily thinking but not gonna swap a motor yet maybe a cheap fast way for now n go NA-T but would like to weld the diff so I can get "sideways" also I have concern about my gear ratio when im 65mph my rpm is at 5k n at 100 mph its at 8k wierd out by that dont know if thats normal
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